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Old 05-21-2009, 01:19 PM   #1
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Sorry for the long post, still a little worked up over this mornings inspection...

So just to describe the situation a little bit, I started my project as a basement re-wire with a panel replacement (old FPE panel). When I talked to the inspector at the time of the rough inspection, I asked about doing the panel replacement if I needed 2 inspections for that (final on the wiring and another on the panel) and he told me no that can all be done in the same trip. I missed a couple things on the rough inspection (I posted that on here a while ago) and fixed the stuff, and had it re-inspected and signed off.

I had the POCO disconnect power on Tuesday afternoon this week, replaced the panel and had everything ready to go for a final inspection on Wednesday morning. When the inspector showed up, he immediately tried to plug his tester into the outlet to check that it was wired properly and was GFCI protected. I then told him that hey, the power is off because of the panel replacement. At which point he said oh yeah, and then told me i'd need another inspection once the power was back on. I didn't say anything about it then, hoping he wouldn't honestly charge me for that 4th trip since it should have been taken care of in the 3rd trip.

He showed up this morning, checked a couple outlets, verified the outlets that need to be GFCI protected were. And checked to see that the bedroom outlets were tamper resistant. When he got all done, he said it would be $70 bucks (the cost of 2 additonal inspection trips) and I questioned it telling him that he said one final trip was all that I needed. He thought about it for a couple seconds and then just blew up and was mad that I even said anything about it. I tried telling him I could give him the check but he just said he "didn't want to inconvience me". He still signed off on it, but didn't take any money for the additional 2 trips. he muttered something when he was putting the approved sticker on the panel and left.

I understand that this is all he does for a living, but he is employed by the state, the check I write out doesn't go to him it goes to the state. It shouldn't be my fault that he told me one final inspection would be all i'd need. I was able and ready to pay the 70 bucks, but it didn't seem right considering what he told me before (and the fact that I questioned if 2 final trips would be nessecary).

I understand the re-inspection on the rough-in was my fault, that I took care of and fixed the couple things. The only 2 minor things he noted yesterday on the first walk-through of the final inspection was that I was missing a knockout cap at the top of the panel (2" knockout) and the Duct Seal around the service entrance wires in the panel. Took all of about 5mins to fix once I had the material from the Electric supply house (local big box stores don't carry these items I have found).
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:31 PM   #2
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Just let it slide. He could be MARRIED or something like that.

Everybody has a bad day now and then...
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:49 PM   #3
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sounds to ME like he was trying to pocket the $$$ for the extra inspections. it goes to him, even though it's made out to the state, doesn't it?
i experienced the same thing here.

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Old 05-21-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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I work for Codes and Regulations here in Louisville. Inspectors can not 'blow up' on a citizen. If that happened here, the inspector would be written up for it and if it was part of a documented pattern of behavior he/she would be suspended or maybe even fired. I've worked in government for almost 25 years. Report it. If you owe the money, pay it, but even if you do that kind of behavior is unacceptable.
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I live in a small county and have been told that some of the inspectors are contracted from other cities and paid a commision to do our jobs... maybe he gets a cut of any check he brings in?

The fact that he got mad and never insisted on payment makes it sound unethical.
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Yeah I don't really know what to do at this point. I think since he signed off on the final inspection that I am good to go, if they require additional money they know where I live and can bill me for it.

Funny thing was, just a couple mins after the inspector left, a Dakota Electric Lineman truck pulled up in front of my house, I thought "oh great, now what" thinking that maybe the inspector was so mad that he called the poco to disconnect my power. Turns out it was the buddy of the Dakota Electric guy that came to re-connect my power on Wednesday, he does stump removal as a side job and just stopped by to check out the stump. Lol.
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I personally would let it slide. I mean, you are done with it, why make a big deal out of it?

If he's got some fiddle on the side with this stuff, he'll eventually get caught anyway.
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I never tic off an Inspector
Not worth it in the long run
I have too much work to do still
But here we don't pay an inspection fee
It's all built into the original permit

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From the sound of it, the guy was having a bad day.
Since he had to stop and think about the charge before he blew up at you, I think he realized that he was wrong, and didn't like that fact.

I think in such a situation, I would have been angry, and maybe would have sent off a nasty e-mail to the city. Then, about three hours later, my anger would have subsided, and I would be sorry about sending the e-mail, and worry that next time I needed an inspector, I would get the same guy and he would remember the complaint, and find any reason to fail my work.

Whatever you decide to do, don't do it while you're upset/angry. If you still feel that a complaint is in order, then you should file one.
IMO, I would just let it go. If the city bills you, just pay it and forget it.

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From the sound of it, the guy was having a bad day.
Since he had to stop and think about the charge before he blew up at you, I think he realized that he was wrong, and didn't like that fact.

I think in such a situation, I would have been angry, and maybe would have sent off a nasty e-mail to the city. Then, about three hours later, my anger would have subsided, and I would be sorry about sending the e-mail, and worry that next time I needed an inspector, I would get the same guy and he would remember the complaint, and find any reason to fail my work.

Whatever you decide to do, don't do it while you're upset/angry. If you still feel that a complaint is in order, then you should file one.
IMO, I would just let it go. If the city bills you, just pay it and forget it.

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Exactly what i'm doing, just letting it go. I suspect he had at least one other inspection prior to mine, since the past 3 inspections he was there right at about 9am and this last time it was about 9:20-9:30 before he showed up. Granted not much time, but he does my city first in the morning, so he could have gone to another inspection close by. I'd certainly hate to be the next inspection, lol.

I agree on the "not doing it while angry". I even thought it over a bit at work before posting this thread thinking about if it really went that way, and it did. It was pretty un-believable what had happened.

As far as additional work to be done, I think I convinced him that there wouldn't be any additional work, though I will most certainly be doing more wiring work. Since he is the only inspector for my area, I probably won't have any additional work inspected.
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Maybe next time he shows up, offer him a beer<g>
Oh, yea. You said he got there in the morning. Not such a good idea then<g>
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