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Old 09-14-2011, 04:07 PM   #46
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Well it is addressed in article 250 as Jim said, and the GEC bonds the service to main.
And accomplishes what?


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The EGC bonds all the equipment back to the main

And accomplishes what?


What is a main?
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I know that article 250.66 is how we size the GEC
T250.66 or the article? What size GEC for different electrodes?
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And accomplishes what?

And accomplishes what?

What is a main?
Well im not near a code book at this moment but the first electrode is the main water pipe. But if the water pipe isn't available we have other options. Like the ground ring, ground rod, building structure and I can't remember the last one
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Well im not near a code book at this moment but the first electrode is the main water pipe. But if the water pipe isn't available we have other options. Like the ground ring, ground rod, building structure and I can't remember the last one
The grounding plate
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Well im not near a code book at this moment but the first electrode is the main water pipe. But if the water pipe isn't available we have other options. Like the ground ring, ground rod, building structure and I can't remember the last one
Not there yet. What it a CEE?

There is no order to electrodes that takes precedent. Why? Do we need to use all of them if they exist?

A water pipe electrode means what? Is it sufficient?
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Not there yet. What it a CEE?

There is no order to electrodes that takes precedent. Why? Do we need to use all of them if they exist?

A water pipe electrode means what? Is it sufficient?
Have u ever heard of Tom Henry? He is awesome. He has a master electrician exam preparation DVD series which I am studying now. Well on the "dwelling service sizing chapter" he talks about the grounding electrode. According to him, we have to follow the order of the electrodes in the NEC
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Not there yet. What it a CEE?

There is no order to electrodes that takes precedent. Why? Do we need to use all of them if they exist?

A water pipe electrode means what? Is it sufficient?
I don't know what a Cee is. Please explain
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You will continue to take beatings until you stop working hot. Or, at least stop professing that you do. Many of us have taken the NEVER-WORK-HOT beating. I'll never do it again.
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You will continue to take beatings until you stop working hot. Or, at least stop professing that you do. Many of us have taken the NEVER-WORK-HOT beating. I'll never do it again.
Beatings I can take, it's the funerals that I can't live with.

There are a lot of sayings I've heard over the years that really make a lot of sense. For instance "Work smarter not harder."

One of my favorite sayings was uttered by the Captain after every briefing on a fictitious TV show called Hill Street Blues, he always told his squad to "Be safe out there".
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The last time I did it, it was a stupid mistake - I hadn't even thought about it (no working overtired - either ) I made myself write 100 times I WILL NOT WORK HOT. I WILL NOT WORK HOT.


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Have u ever heard of Tom Henry? He is awesome. He has a master electrician exam preparation DVD series which I am studying now.
Yes I know Tom Henry's material. I am a Mike Holt guy, but Tom is just as good.

You need to get this book when you can. It is an excellent addition to either guys material.

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Beatings I can take, it's the funerals that I can't live with.

There are a lot of sayings I've heard over the years that really make a lot of sense. For instance "Work smarter not harder."

One of my favorite sayings was uttered by the Captain after every briefing on a fictitious TV show called Hill Street Blues, he always told his squad to "Be safe out there".
Greg was in the Navy, so he may like this one:

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I don't know what a Cee is. Please explain

Concrete Encased Electrode. Slang name is UFER. 250.52(A)(3)

Good, now you are asking questions instead of giving half answers. You can learn much more this way.

Since you are in the trade, we are willing to help you learn:

Buy we expect you to use correct terminology, explain your answers, have your code book handy to look up references/sections and have a positive attitude.

Now go back and answer my first question. EGC and GEC? Explain with specific NEC sections.

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