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Old 09-27-2010, 04:32 PM   #1
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Would anyone know if it is required to have AFCI protection just in bedrooms, or is it now require to have in all rooms except kitchen and bathroom. I live in Quebec,canada


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According the Canadian Electrical Code only bedrooms need to be AFCI protected, and I beleive it is only the plugs that need the protection and not the lights.

This answer may change if you have something in Quebec that overrueles the CEC.

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Not sure about Canada but the NEC 210.12(B) states:

Dwelling Units. all 120-volt, single phase, 15 and 20 amp branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling unit family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter, combination-type, installed to provide protection of branch circuit.

The exceptions are any GFI circuits: bathroom GFI's, kitchen: 2 Small appliance branch circuits which should be GFI protected and fire/alarm system
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According the Canadian Electrical Code only bedrooms need to be AFCI protected, and I beleive it is only the plugs that need the protection and not the lights.

This answer may change if you have something in Quebec that overrueles the CEC.
Darren .,

sorry to bother ya but I thought the CEC will do cover the luminaires in the bedrooms as well unless I was reading the wrong section of CEC.

Yeah Québec have slightly diffrent code modifactions than the rest of CEC is set up.

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Marc the only thing I can find is, receptacles in a bedroom need arc fault protection.
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In Ontario only receptacles MUST be AFCI. Lighting is not required to be AFCI but it can be. Smokes must NOT be AFCI.
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Thanks for eveyones input.

With the cost of AFCI breakers $68, is there any problems with supplying two bedrooms (one on the first floor and one in the basement) with one breaker as long as I keep the outlet count to 12 or less?

Also is Canada(quebec) up to the new code in USA where tamper proof outlets are required?

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No problem supplying more than one room(limit 12). Tamper proof is now required.
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Is it still just for bedrooms the AFCI and tamper proof?
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Everything needs to be tamper proof except plugs for dedicated microwaves, fridges, freezers, kitchen counters. Plus anything in an attic or crawl space do not need tamper proof.

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