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Old 06-04-2009, 11:22 AM   #16
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i suppose i could run all new nomex from the JBox. wouldn't this then require me to rewire the switch loop?
If you plan to pull new cables, please take the time to make drawing of the circuit. I am not sure if that will help you though. If you do not understand how the switch loop works, you will be back here looking for even more help. Just take a length of cable and run it to the new box and fixture. (from existing to new) Then have a couple beers, enjoy your new light fixture.

If this two wire system is keeping you awake at night, get a couple bids to replace all of it. You can do it piece meal if you want, but you will save some money if you have someone do it all at once.

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Bravo! Somebody who tells it like it really is. I'm not a contractor, just a skilled DIYer. I'd never in a million years pull a permit for such simple work, regardless of how nominal the fee.
Well, let's not give the impression that it is OK to work without permits or inspections. To a skilled person who knows their work is compliant, professional or DIY, it may be OK in certain situations to forgo the process. But not everyone is sure of their own compliance, and the ones who are got that way by having their work inspected.

I know that my work is top notch and is compliant above the Code, so on small jobs, like running a circuit for granny's light, I may skip the permit and inspection. Novices need the inspection to make sure they have covered all their bases. Let's not down play the importance of it, especially on a DIY site.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:21 PM   #18
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Bravo! Somebody who tells it like it really is. I'm not a contractor, just a skilled DIYer. I'd never in a million years pull a permit for such simple work, regardless of how nominal the fee.
Ok, I am in the regulatory field, so from a professional perspective everything is supposed to be 'code compliant.' However, as a practical matter if you are going to have an ungrounded fixture, an overhead light is about the least dangerous. If it were my house, I'd just do it and forget it.
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Well, let's not give the impression that it is OK to work without permits or inspections. To a skilled person who knows their work is compliant, professional or DIY, it may be OK in certain situations to forgo the process. But not everyone is sure of their own compliance, and the ones who are got that way by having their work inspected.

I know that my work is top notch and is compliant above the Code, so on small jobs, like running a circuit for granny's light, I may skip the permit and inspection. Novices need the inspection to make sure they have covered all their bases. Let's not down play the importance of it, especially on a DIY site.
I hear you loud and clear InPhase. But a single extension from one light to another?
I do agree inspections can help and enforce compliant installations by non professionals.

If the OP were to get the AHJ involved in this small project, it might turn into a very big and expensive project. Thats why I suggest he just run the cable and install the fixture.
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I hear you loud and clear InPhase. But a single extension from one light to another?
I do agree inspections can help and enforce compliant installations by non professionals.

If the OP were to get the AHJ involved in this small project, it might turn into a very big and expensive project. Thats why I suggest he just run the cable and install the fixture.
No, no J.V. I wasn't saying anything particular to this installation, but merely pointing out that the other guy (whom I quoted) shouldn't be so dismissive of the permit and inspection process, especially in regards to DIY projects. Me personally, I'd just run the extension and leave the ground wire unconnected, even though it is a violation. I am not suggesting that anyone else do this.
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No, no J.V. I wasn't saying anything particular to this installation, but merely pointing out that the other guy (whom I quoted) shouldn't be so dismissive of the permit and inspection process, especially in regards to DIY projects. Me personally, I'd just run the extension and leave the ground wire unconnected, even though it is a violation. I am not suggesting that anyone else do this.
We think alike. I hope thats a good thing......lol

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