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Old 09-09-2008, 02:36 PM   #1
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i'm installing an above ground pool that i got from a friend. i need an electrical permit from the town, i live in. i never installed outdoor electric before so i need some help on this. also i am not an electrician. i was going to tap into the power in my garage and run the wire underground in a conduit to a convered gfi on a 4x4 post. would this be right? what size wiring would i use? anything else would be great. thanks in advance

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Old 09-09-2008, 02:47 PM   #2
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Wow, you are asking for detailed info on a decent sized project.

It's NOT as simple as running power from your garage any more.

Se here for a start: http://www.selfhelpandmore.com/home-...pools-2002.php

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ifs its a 120 volt plug in pump the code requirements are minimal.
you just need a dedicated ckt, like a 12/2 uf(direct burial underground feeder) wire and install a gfi receptacle where you would plug in the pump,and any and outlet within 10 ft of the pool has to be gfi protected along with lights.
Even though this is simple to an electrician if you don't have experience being or working with an electrician.....hire someone..... doing this wrong can endanger you and your family

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Mighty, this information is SO wrong it's not funny.

I suggest you brush up on your code before posting what you "think" is correct.

- NO UF cable for the outside wiring portion. Conduit and an insulated ground are mandatory.
- If the pump receptacle is between 5'-10' of the pool it MUST be a locking type.
- ANY receptacle for a pump motor MUST be GFI protected.
- NO other receptacles can be within 10' of the pool.
- You MUST have a GFI protected general use receptacle within 10'-20'of the pool.
- The cord on the pump can be NO longer than 3' and MUST have an insulated ground of no smaller than #12.

This is just the start, shall I get into equipotential bonding?

I hardly think this is "minimal".
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ifs its a 120 volt plug in pump the code requirements are minimal.
you just need a dedicated ckt, like a 12/2 uf(direct burial underground feeder) wire and install a gfi receptacle where you would plug in the pump,and any and outlet within 10 ft of the pool has to be gfi protected along with lights.
Even though this is simple to an electrician if you don't have experience being or working with an electrician.....hire someone..... doing this wrong can endanger you and your family
So minimal, your incorrect, you cannot use UF. You cannot just use a gfci for the pump, unless you meet the required distance. The list goes on and on.
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ifs its a 120 volt plug in pump the code requirements are minimal.
you just need a dedicated ckt, like a 12/2 uf(direct burial underground feeder) wire and install a gfi receptacle where you would plug in the pump,and any and outlet within 10 ft of the pool has to be gfi protected along with lights.
Even though this is simple to an electrician if you don't have experience being or working with an electrician.....hire someone..... doing this wrong can endanger you and your family
I see from another thread you say you are an electrician?
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dude relax....this guy is asking on a website how to wire a pool....how much detail do you think he will understand??? or even follow and true once I saw it your right the ground needs to be insulated....opps my bad .....but there are much fewer requirements compared to an inground pool thats what I meant by minimal
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dude relax....this guy is asking on a website how to wire a pool....how much detail do you think he will understand??? or even follow and true once I saw it your right the ground needs to be insulated....opps my bad .....but there are much fewer requirements compared to an inground pool thats what I meant by minimal

So because this is a DIY site they dont have to do it to code? I dont think the OP would have asked for help if he was just going to hack it in.
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Speedy,
Is this the same guy that said electricians do service upgrades live?
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yes I think the people asking for advice on a website are not going to do it by code.....Ive worked side by side with guys who have been helpers for yrs who can't do it by code and your going to explain on a web page how to do it. and have the person do it correctly
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dude relax....this guy is asking on a website how to wire a pool....
NO DUDE, I won't relax. Not when I see a so called electrician give completely wrong information on how to wire a pool for sh*t's sake!
Why not give the information that is code and safety accurate?

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...how much detail do you think he will understand???
He had better understand ALL of it.
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yes I think the people asking for advice on a website are not going to do it by code.....
Then WTF are you doing here???? Why are you wasting your energy typing?
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and yes I do service changes live try calling con ed and have them shut off the power...they'll have you on hold longer than it would take you to do the job
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ehh I'm married with kids .... this is all I can do....help....
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You're not helping.

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