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Licensed Electrical Cont.
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Originally Posted by Bgm94
could someone please link me to what i need, and what i need to do exactly
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Anyone who has to ask this, in this manner, should NOT be messing with this stuff. 
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07-22-2010, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frenchelectrican
Sont vous hors de votre avis sur celui-ci ?
{ Are you out of your mind on this one ??}
Now, how would I know that? 
Merci.
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BTW, my online translator says this phrase means
"Are you out of your opinion on this?"
but what does she know???
Danke sehr,
Y.
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07-22-2010, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Proby
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That's why I included the cost balancing language in my msg. We don't know if he may or may not have, or have access to free or cheap transformers. It wouldn't be the first time that somebody did. VRP
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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey
Anyone who has to ask this, in this manner, should NOT be messing with this stuff. |
That's a good conclusion, and considering the OP is gone, this thread should end here.
Vic
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07-22-2010, 06:40 PM
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I agree with Pete, this kinda draws the line for DIY, sounds to me like your gonna burn your shed and your house down  , it's gonna be expensive if you do it your self or if you have an electrician do it. have this one done by somebody who knows what there doing.
woot
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07-22-2010, 06:53 PM
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An old Tradesmen
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Never seen a shed. Where they ran a small line to it. That they didn't wish that had a bigger service to it later.
Around here. They usually end up wishing they had enough for a 1500 watt heater. And their lights and a drill.
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07-22-2010, 07:14 PM
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The portable generator idea is definitely a good one. It'll give him lights and power tools for a good price and it can always be used in other situations, like at the main house during outages.
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07-22-2010, 10:45 PM
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400 foot electric
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Originally Posted by Proby
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Actually, could he like use two microwave oven transformers or something? Would that work? Step up the voltage, then step it down at the other end. Guess that would be hard to pass an inspection though, as it's not really standard. MOT might not be the best choice either, just an example. Maybe neon sign transformer, or CRT flyback?
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07-23-2010, 08:35 AM
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While I doubt the OP will be ripping open a matched pair of microwaves....remember, most residential wire is only rated up to 600 volts.
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07-23-2010, 11:30 AM
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It was a dark and stormy
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400 foot electric
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Squirrel
Step up the voltage, then step it down at the other end.
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If you step it up to 240 vac the current is halved so you can go 3 gauge numbers smaller on the line to keep the same voltage drop.
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07-23-2010, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyizit
If you step it up to 240 vac the current is halved so you can go 3 gauge numbers smaller on the line to keep the same voltage drop.
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Yo.,
It can be done but if the OP did bring out 120/240 volt circuit it is not too bad but for any other voltage it may help a bit but 400 feet is not too bad with 240 volts but if you follow the European votlage level I will say your rear end will get screwed.
Merci.
Marc
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07-23-2010, 11:58 AM
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It was a dark and stormy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frenchelectrican
your rear end will get screwed.
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votre arrière se faire défoncer
???
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07-23-2010, 12:00 PM
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" Euro " electrician
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyizit
votre arrière se faire défoncer
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Close engough but if you work on European system you will have no idea how to deal with it .,,, { that why I am used to French system for very long time }
Merci.
Marc
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07-23-2010, 02:59 PM
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Here is an idea;
use such a narrow gauge wire that you have a 50% VD, then run a 220 line to the lights and outlets 
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07-23-2010, 05:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by forresth
Here is an idea;
use such a narrow gauge wire that you have a 50% VD, then run a 220 line to the lights and outlets |
That's not going to work. Best thing is to get the POCO to place a pole and transformer then run some #12 THWN right off the transformer down some conduit to the shed.
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07-23-2010, 09:09 PM
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Electrician 30 yrs +
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400 foot electric
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bgm94
what would be the most cheap and efficient way to run electricity to a shed about 400ft away (100 meters) continuously? I will, for the most part, be powering lights and maybe a drill (MAYBE).
Thanks
Bill
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cheapest way out; Hire an electrician to build a new 100 amp service at the shop and pay for 2 electric bills.
Huck.
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