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451stroker 12-13-2011 06:07 PM

250 Volt Hookup Question
 
Hey Everyone,

I went to the electrical supply store today to buy 85 feet of 6/2 NM wire for a 50 amp, 250 volt hookup. This is only going to be used for my welder and plasma cutter. Both units are 2 wire hookup. An electrician at the store overheard me saying it was for a plasma cutter and said that I needed 6/3 because some plasma cutters use 125 volts for the digital control panel. I explained that the cutter I have does not and only requires a 2 wire hookup. The electrician still suggested that I go with 6/3, just in case I ever have a scenario where I'm plugging a device in that needs a 3 wire hookup.

I took the advice and bought the 6/3 wire.

My questions is, if I wire it for the time being with a 3 prong, 2 wire hookup receptacle, what should I do with the white wire? I assume it would just get taped off on the receptacle end, but should it still hook into the return bus on the panel?

Also, what if I just wire a 4 prong, 3 wire receptacle? Would I put a 4 prong plug on my 2 wire welder and plasma cutter and leave the lug for the white wire empty on the plug?

Which is the better way to go?

Thanks for the help.

jlmran 12-13-2011 06:14 PM

I would say it is better to leave the extra conductor capped off, rather than plugging your equipment into the "incorrect" receptacle, while using the "incorrect" cord cap for your equipment.

451stroker 12-13-2011 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlmran (Post 793247)
I would say it is better to leave the extra conductor capped off, rather than plugging your equipment into the "incorrect" receptacle, while using the "incorrect" cord cap for your equipment.

So, leave the white wire capped off at the receptable end AND at the service panel?

Thanks.

jlmran 12-13-2011 06:39 PM

That's what I would do. Others may differ in their opinion.

451stroker 12-13-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlmran (Post 793293)
That's what I would do. Others may differ in their opinion.

Also, I'm having this inspected when I'm finished. Is there any issue in not hooking up the white wire as far as the inspector would be concerned?

jbfan 12-13-2011 06:52 PM

I would connect it inside the panel so you don't have to open the panel again.

451stroker 12-13-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbfan (Post 793312)
I would connect it inside the panel so you don't have to open the panel again.

It's okay to do that and leave it capped off at the receptacle end?

jbfan 12-13-2011 06:59 PM

Not a problem.

VA master elect 12-13-2011 07:08 PM

Any neutral or equipment ground conductor should be landed on the proper ground bar even if its for future use. Imagine the prospect of a white or bare wire contacting a hot breaker terminal screw and zapping the person at the other end!

451stroker 12-13-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VA master elect (Post 793342)
Any neutral or equipment ground conductor should be landed on the proper ground bar even if its for future use. Imagine the prospect of a white or bare wire contacting a hot breaker terminal screw and zapping the person at the other end!

Would the inspector have a problem seeing a 3 wire hookup at the panel, but a 2 wire receptacle at the other end?

jlmran 12-13-2011 08:03 PM

The paralysis of analysis.

VA master elect 12-13-2011 08:15 PM

if I were inspecting it, I would peruse the paperwork for the load device and require any associated ground or neutral wire to be landed in the distribution panel.

mpoulton 12-14-2011 02:31 AM

I see no reason not to install a 4-wire receptacle, and switch plugs on the machines. That way you don't have to rewire anything later if you acquire anything that requires a neutral. It's no worse to leave the neutral prong unused in the plug than it is to leave the neutral wire unused in the box. In fact, I'd argue it's a better installation.

jlmran 12-14-2011 06:04 AM

What is so frightening or laborious about changing the receptacle in the future if so needed for a different piece of equipment?

I still say don't put a 125/250 volt cord cap on a 250 volt device. Doing that provides another reason for DIYers to be identified as 'hacks'.

Do it right and put the correct component on the cord based on the specs of the device.

joecaption 12-14-2011 06:12 AM

If the inspector sees an unconnect or caped off wire in a panel you can bet he's going to want to know why and where it goes. If it's connected most likly he's not even going to look in the outlet box.


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