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Old 04-14-2012, 06:26 PM   #16
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That breaker alone is more expensive than a 200 A main breaker panel.

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That breaker alone is more expensive than a 200 A main breaker panel.
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WHY in the world did you buy that? Why not just get a standard main breaker panel?
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WHY in the world did you buy that? Why not just get a standard main breaker panel?
Well, the cost of the panel and the main breaker will be around $200, which isn't that much more than a 40-space 200A panel. The extra 25 Amps might allow me to squeeze an extra 2 ton mini split into the house. I recently replaced the oil furnace with a heat pump. I might like the latitude to put radiant heat in the driveway, etc.

I know, I should have had the foresight to put in a 400A lateral and a 320CL meter pan, but at this point I think the small incremental cost for 25 amps seems like a good investment.

Maybe after I complete my 1800 square foot addition, I'll try to convince the power company to perform the upgrade. They told me I had to provide the service lateral, and they would take ownership of the equipment after I completed the work.

My main concern right now is whether or not the inspector will have an issue with the CL200 meter, which I understand to be good up to 250A peak usage. I believe I'm OK with the 4/0 triplex for the lateral.

The biggest challenge at this point will be finding some way to make the 2" conduit work. The meter will be offset a foot or so from the service panel, so I need to find a way to make an abrupt bend on the other side of the rim joist. I think a 2" sweep will protrude too far into the basement. I guess I could always use the heat gun approach, but I don't think the inspector is really keen on that method of bending.
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According to the links you provided, the panel was over $700 and the breaker was over $400 and you got both for under $200?

You need to sell your secrets because I'm sure there are many electrical contractors that would want that information.
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From what I see, you are only allowed (2) 4/0's in a 2" schedule 80 PVC.
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Can run 3 but usually the neutral is stepped down to 2/0
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Could probably get away with 2 250's and a stepped down 3/0 neutral in 80 because 40 will hold three 250's. But it would be close.
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My bad...I have NO idea what I was looking at.
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According to the links you provided, the panel was over $700 and the breaker was over $400 and you got both for under $200?

You need to sell your secrets because I'm sure there are many electrical contractors that would want that information.
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Can run 3 but usually the neutral is stepped down to 2/0
Great! I'm really happy I don't have to deal with 2.5. I guess as long as I carefully heat my conduit, I should be in good shape. I'm not going to run out and buy a hot box for home use.

On a different note, I don't think my "AHJ" considers the service entrance (at least not in my case an area subject to physical damage, so I can probably get away with schedule 40. After all, he was going to allow me to use SEU. The meter pan is about 18 inches from the center of the service panel.
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The biggest challenge at this point will be finding some way to make the 2" conduit work. The meter will be offset a foot or so from the service panel, so I need to find a way to make an abrupt bend on the other side of the rim joist. I think a 2" sweep will protrude too far into the basement. I guess I could always use the heat gun approach, but I don't think the inspector is really keen on that method of bending.
Why not use an LB?
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If you have not laid conduit and would like to upgrade later I would suggest going with a larger size conduit. And I would suggest you buy already made elbows and LB's for the sharp bends to get inside.
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According to the links you provided, the panel was over $700 and the breaker was over $400 and you got both for under $200?

You need to sell your secrets because I'm sure there are many electrical contractors that would want that information.
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I bought the panel from a supply house on eBay. It's an MLO panel to which I'm going to add a 225A main breaker (above).
I still find it VERY hard to believe that he is going to get both for under $200. Even under $500 would be a bargain....unless of course the stuff is used.
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$229.69 each for the panel at the supply house I deal with.

Not sure about the breaker could not find that number in a search.
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$229.69 each for the panel at the supply house I deal with.
Ebay is the operative word here.
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Yes I just googled them and found both the breaker and panel with a good buy it now/best offer. I have bough some electrical parts off ebay users but always wonder if it will come back to bite me. Bolt on breakers you can tell if they have been bolted on before but you never know how the item has been stored.

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