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Old 04-09-2008, 08:53 AM   #1
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i put a 20 amp 220 gfi circuit braker in panel box to run pool pump , ran (1) 12/2 wire. at the pool pump area, im installing a double outlet box and want 1 side 220 for pump and the other side 110 for pool light, can i use the 1 wire to hook up both sides (ie: hooking up 2 hots to 220 and 1 hot to 110).

if so does this effect gfi
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Old 04-09-2008, 10:16 AM   #2
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i put a 20 amp 220 gfi circuit braker in panel box to run pool pump , ran (1) 12/2 wire. at the pool pump area, im installing a double outlet box and want 1 side 220 for pump and the other side 110 for pool light, can i use the 1 wire to hook up both sides (ie: hooking up 2 hots to 220 and 1 hot to 110).

if so does this effect gfi
thanks
No. When you use x/2 wire, you can only have 240V OR 120V. In the 240 setup, the white (neutral) is used as a hot conductor. In a 120 setup, there needs to be a neutral present to complete the circuit.

If you set up to run 240v, there is no neutral, therefore cannot use anything 120v on it.

If you set up 120v, then you cannot have 240v.

you need to run another cable for your 120v pool light.

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Cables typically have a covered ground wire. You need an insulated ground for pool and spa wiring.

Are you using conduit and wet rated conductors?
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ian111111,

I am a bit confused. You just email me saying you had 12/3 wire?

for your own anyone else who touches that wires safety, I am going to post the email from you here so there is no confusion.

"i ran 12/3 wire, can i use red for neutral, if so. is this code"


Everyone here is going to point out EXACTLY what you need to do for this installation. Hopefully you understand that there are codes in place for everyones safety, and that it may cost you money and time to re-do what you have already done.

Jim has a point about what type of wire you used. You need to be clear about HOW, WHERE, and WHAT you have already done for people to help you out.
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Can't run cable to to a pool. It must be in RMC, IMC, RNC, or listed MC cable.
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Don't be an idiot. Your kids will be in that pool.

Cough up a few bucks to have it installed properly.
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"i ran 12/3 wire, can i use red for neutral, if so. is this code"
It's also nice that he is resorting to e-mails so he doesn't have to face the comments here on the board.

I AGREE WITH 220/221!
Anyone who would even suggest this OBVIOUSLY does NOT have the the basic skills to wire anything even remotely related to a pool!!

DO THE RIGHT THING!!!! Hire a PRO!


No offense Cowboy, but pools are a VERY specialized area and there are a TON of very specific codes involved. One of them is NO cable to a pool light like this. It is conduit ONLY, and with more specific codes regarding it.
I would try to refrain from giving advice on pools if you could. Unless of course you know exactly what you are suggesting is correct.
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It's also nice that he is resorting to e-mails so he doesn't have to face the comments here on the board.

I AGREE WITH 220/221!
Anyone who would even suggest this OBVIOUSLY does NOT have the the basic skills to wire anything even remotely related to a pool!!

DO THE RIGHT THING!!!! Hire a PRO!


No offense Cowboy, but pools are a VERY specialized area and there are a TON of very specific codes involved. One of them is NO cable to a pool light like this. It is conduit ONLY, and with more specific codes regarding it.
I would try to refrain from giving advice on pools if you could. Unless of course you know exactly what you are suggesting is correct.
I agree... which is why I said this...

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Everyone here is going to point out EXACTLY what you need to do for this installation. Hopefully you understand that there are codes in place for everyones safety, and that it may cost you money and time to re-do what you have already done.

Jim has a point about what type of wire you used. You need to be clear about HOW, WHERE, and WHAT you have already done for people to help you out.

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