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Old 02-28-2013, 11:23 PM   #16
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I don't really know what you are asking anymore. I thought you were saying that there were two hot wires up in the ceiling with the switches in. With the switches removed and no splices made in the switch boxes, there shouldn't be any power in the ceiling box assuming the wires actually go where you think they go.

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Old 03-01-2013, 12:28 AM   #17
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Ok I'm asking how I should go about hooking up the light fixture. And at the same time this is what I have for wires and their current state.
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The 2 wires on the bottom are currently hot the one on the right goes to the light
What test did you perform to establish "no neutral" ?
The box in the picture, is this where the switch was ?
Or is it just a J box ?
Do you have a test lamp or a volt meter ?

We gotta know for sure whjch wire is what !
Without ripping out walls, testing is only thing left !
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Ok I have only a test lamp. So I plugged in an extension cord to the wall outlet put 1 lead into the neutral side the other on the wire to be tested.

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In the picture using the test lamp (as I had said above) the 2 wires coming from the bottom are hot the top 2 are dead.
The wire in the top right goes to the ceiling.

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That wire is on the right side no tape this wire is dead.
However the wire on the left comes from the left side of the picture. And has voltage on it .
Is this the information u are looking for?
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The box with the 4 wires is where I plan to put in the switch, I assume that it is the same place as the old switch. This room had no lights in the livingroom so that is what I'm tring to do put in a ceiling fan. It is starting to sound and look like this room had been set up via three way switches.
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A three way would explain the extra wires !
But if there is a neutral at the light fitting,
you can use the existing wires and cap off the
other unused wires.

If the bottom left wire is the hot supply,
then it would be connectted to one side
of the switch, on the other side of the switch
would be the bottom right wire, which you beleive
goes to the light fitting.

The other two wires which are beleived to be
travellers can be capped off.

some area's require a neutral at the switch
You should enquire about this for your area !
Is it K &T ???
If so there are many rules for K & T also.

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Ok I'm still a bit confused I know to operate a light u need a hot and neutral there are just 2 wires in the ceiling I do.t understand what happened to the neutral wire? I will check in on that you have asked.


Does k and t stand for knob and tube if so yes.
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Ok I'm still a bit confused I know to operate a light u need a hot and neutral there are just 2 wires in the ceiling I do.t understand what happened to the neutral wire? I will check in on that you have asked.


Does k and t stand for knob and tube if so yes.
There are two wires at light fitting,
One should be the switched hot from the switch.
The other should be the neutral !
Have you tested for neutral at light end ?
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Something to keep in mind, switching the neutral was not uncommon back in the knob and tube days.

It's quite possible that the live wire you have at the light is your hot, and the 2nd wire that goes to the switch is actually a switched neutral.

Just a thought.
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Thank you I will check this out and repost .
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Ok I checked the switch that I thought it would have been tied in with but no change.

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