DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum

DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum (
-   Electrical (
-   -   2 Ceiling fans and 1 double pole switch (

karpolu 05-27-2012 09:04 PM

2 Ceiling fans and 1 double pole switch

I am changing a dimmer switch to a double pole light switch to control 2 ceiling fans with no lights. Inside the switch are 2 white, 2 black and 2 bare wires. The bare wires are wrapped together leaving the 2 white and 2 black wires.

How do I wire to a double pole light switch? I kinda have an idea but I don't wanna burn my house down.

Thanks for any advice!


kbsparky 05-27-2012 09:34 PM

Why do you think you need to use a double-pole switch? Are these 2 fans on separate circuits?

karpolu 05-27-2012 09:47 PM

So I only needed a single pole switch? I was thinking 1 fan per side.

The black and white pairs have the dimmer attached hanging outside of the picture.

andrew79 05-27-2012 10:08 PM

wow that's an ugly looking box, always nice when you see copper stinking out of the wire nuts everywhere. A picture including the dimmer would be more helpfull.

karpolu 05-27-2012 10:56 PM

When I wire the switch, the yellow wire nuts will go away.

kbsparky 05-28-2012 03:18 AM

What a rats nest! You need to zoom back a bit so we can see all the connections, and which wires are connected to which.

karpolu 05-28-2012 04:26 AM

I removed the dimmer switch. All that remains are the 2 pairs of black and white wires and the 2 bare wires which are connected to each other with the yellow wire nut in the back of the switch box.

kbsparky 05-28-2012 04:33 AM

It's still impossible for one to determine which wire was connected where, with part of the photo cropped... How was that dimmer originally connected, and did it properly control both fans?

k_buz 05-28-2012 07:55 AM

Why are there two dimmers and a 3 way switch in that 2 gang box?

karpolu 05-28-2012 09:14 AM

Its a 2 switch box with a dimmer and a light switch. In the original setup, there are 2 ceiling fans and 3 light fixtures on the patio. In the switch box there are a dimmer switch and a regular light switch. The light switch on the right in the picture controls the 3 lights. The dimmer switch that I have removed controlled the 2 ceiling fans (previous homeowner did this).

The dimmer switch on the left has the 2 black wires connected to it and the white wires are capped off with wire nuts. The two bare wires are connected to each other. For now, I have removed the dimmer switch and capped off the 2 black and white pairs of wires (no copper showing :) ).

With the dimmer switch gone, I'm left with just the wires.

Thanks again.

k_buz 05-28-2012 09:19 AM


k_buz 05-28-2012 09:26 AM

I am thoroughly confused on what you have already done.

There was an existing fan/speed control that controlled two fans?
In one picture there are two fan/speed controls and a separate switch. Was that switch existing? Did you change the wiring to install the second fan/speed control?

I have an idea of what should be done, but something isn't adding up in your descriptions of what you have already done vs what was existing.

k_buz 05-28-2012 09:29 AM

If I am reading this right, you need to install a single pole switch using the same wires that the dimmer/fan-speed control used.

You should just connect the 2 whites together (like they were) and put one black to each screw on the single pole switch.

You can use a double pole switch if you have bought it already, just put both wires on the same side (one on the top, one on the bottom).

Jim Port 05-28-2012 09:32 AM

Looked to me like two switch loops, but the single dimmer or speed control has me confused.

k_buz 05-28-2012 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 930372)
Looked to me like two switch loops, but the single dimmer or speed control has me confused.

The part that is confusing me is that if there was only one fan/speed controlled installed originally, why are two shown in the pictures?

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:59 AM.

vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1