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Old 01-14-2010, 04:34 PM   #1
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16' by 13' living room. 4" cans. placement???


my livingroom is 16 by 13 and theres a lcdtv on the wall that is 13 and couch on opposite 13' wall. will be installing 6 4 inch recessed lights. any idea on placement? the trim will be white baffeled most likely.

i wont be using the lights for painting or stuff like that, mainly to light up the whole room and some walls. ideas?

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Yeah.....I'm thinkin he might want more info then that
Wire one up with a plug on it & hold them up where you may want them to see how it works lighting up the area

My 20x19 room I added 4 4" cans along one wall where there will be a bar
The rest I added rows of 6" cans about 6' apart - so 2 in a row
Only 2 rows - 4' out from the wall...then another 4' after that

Also depnds upon how bright you like it
If you will use dimmers
How many windows
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Check out this site
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Yeah.....I'm thinkin he might want more info then that
Wire one up with a plug on it & hold them up where you may want them to see how it works lighting up the area

My 20x19 room I added 4 4" cans along one wall where there will be a bar
The rest I added rows of 6" cans about 6' apart - so 2 in a row
Only 2 rows - 4' out from the wall...then another 4' after that

Also depnds upon how bright you like it
If you will use dimmers
How many windows
etc etc
yeah, there is one window lets say east wall. tv on north wall. couch on south and plain wall on west wall. window is about 7 feet wide. cans are 4inches six of them using 50watt bulbs (r20). with white baffell trim. if i am 3 feet from the wall on the 4 corner lights, will they light up the wall some? for example. if i do 3 feet away from the wall with the light show on the wall lets say 5 feet up from the floor? also ceilings are 8 footers.
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my room is 14.5 x 22. We put in six 6-inch cans and two ceiling fans with light kits.

We put the cans out about even with the edge of the couch -- makes good reading light and you don't cast shadows on the coffee table. Also about the same distance out in front of the entertainment center -- so you can see what's in it when you open the drawers.

The six lights are OK for general light, but if we didn't have the fans it wouldn't be enough.
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I would put the 4 corner cans 4' from each wall and then center the other 2 on the 16' wall @ 4' out. This will put a row of 3 cans 4' apart and the row of 2 will be 5' apart with the 4 corners squared nicely with the room. Anyway thats the way I usually install them and I've never had to redo any yet.
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my livingroom is 16 by 13
will be installing 6 4 inch recessed lights.
An 8'x8' room needing 65 lux can be done with one 60w incand. bulb, so a 16x13 room needs ~200w for the same level of illumination, ~30w for each of 6 lights.
Use floods to try to even out the illumination.

Regarding the link above, kitchen work areas & office lighting use 300 to 500 lux, so the lamps mentioned in the link might be a bit bright for this application.

And it turns out there's more to it than just illumination
http://books.google.com/books?id=JZE...tic%22&f=false


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