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Trucon01 11-28-2012 08:13 PM

15 or 20amp for basement finishing
 
Hi All,

I'm to the point where I can start to run wire for my outlets. I've been doing some reading and what I see is that if you want to spend the extra money, install all 20 amp recepts on a 20 amp breaker. For 98% of the time, this will be over kill, I just don't want to run into an issue later if I want to put in a electric fireplace, etc.

Do you guys recommend spending a few extra bucks and do the whole basement in 20amp?

Jim Port 11-28-2012 08:16 PM

I doubt that you will find many items that need a 20 amp receptacle.

I would definitely install a 20 amp circuit.

stickboy1375 11-28-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trucon01 (Post 1062639)
Hi All,

I'm to the point where I can start to run wire for my outlets. I've been doing some reading and what I see is that if you want to spend the extra money, install all 20 amp recepts on a 20 amp breaker. For 98% of the time, this will be over kill, I just don't want to run into an issue later if I want to put in a electric fireplace, etc.

Do you guys recommend spending a few extra bucks and do the whole basement in 20amp?

I wouldn't, but this debate is going to be a long one... ;) Just do what you want/feel is adequate for you. Personally, you are much better off just running two 15 amp circuits than one 20 amp circuit.... :)

k_buz 11-28-2012 08:16 PM

Most electric fireplaces I have seen have required their own circuit, especially if they have a heater. I would much rather have 2 15A circuits than 1 20 A circuit.

diystephen 11-28-2012 08:18 PM

Most folks will not use 20 amp outlets, but my recommendation is to always use a 20 amp circuit (#12 wire) if you can swing it. Then use 15 amp receptacles (as they're cheaper) and receptacles are easy to switch out. When you run into a situation requiring a 20 amp receptacle, just switch out the receptacle in question. But if you're considering adding an electric fireplace I would wire a dedicated circuit for that (if you know where it might go.)

stickboy1375 11-28-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by diystephen (Post 1062649)
Most folks will not use 20 amp outlets, but my recommendation is to always use a 20 amp circuit (#12 wire) if you can swing it. Then use 15 amp receptacles (as they're cheaper) and receptacles are easy to switch out. When you run into a situation requiring a 20 amp receptacle, just switch out the receptacle in question.

What good is swapping out the receptacle when the circuit is most likely going to be overloaded at that point?

Trucon01 11-28-2012 08:24 PM

Thanks guys!!

I like the running 12-2 and using 15a recepts until I actually need a 20a idea... However, if running 2 separate 15a amps is the absolute best way, I may just do that.

Is one preferred over the other?

diystephen 11-28-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375 (Post 1062651)
What good is swapping out the receptacle when the circuit is most likely going to be overloaded at that point?

If that likelihood exists then the OP can do as you suggested and run multiple circuits at the start (especially a dedicated receptacle where an electric fireplace might be.)

stickboy1375 11-28-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Trucon01 (Post 1062655)
Thanks guys!!

I like the running 12-2 and using 15a recepts until I actually need a 20a idea... However, if running 2 separate 15a amps is the absolute best way, I may just do that.

Is one preferred over the other?

You will never need a 20 amp receptacle, I've been in the trade a long time, and have only seen a handful of 20 amp appliances, and at that point, they all required a dedicated circuit.

Trucon01 11-28-2012 08:37 PM

Alrighty then...

So I'll just use 2 different circuits @ 15amps. Thanks for responding so quickly!

diystephen 11-28-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucon01 (Post 1062655)
Thanks guys!!

I like the running 12-2 and using 15a recepts until I actually need a 20a idea... However, if running 2 separate 15a amps is the absolute best way, I may just do that.

Is one preferred over the other?

Can you swing 2 20A circuits? One approach is to "leapfrog" outlets; where every other outlet is on the same circuit. That coupled with a dedicated circuit for a fireplace would help prevent future issues.

Trucon01 11-28-2012 08:45 PM

Here we go.... :)

I'm not worried about the cost at this point. I want the best setup possible since everything is open. I want to do it right and have a tendency to over do things anyway. Eventually, I am going to keep this property as an investment house within the next 5 years or so, if that makes a difference.

Stickboy, you're up now!! yay or nah to this?

jbfan 11-28-2012 09:01 PM

What is the space going to used for?


Do you know where the fireplace will sit now, or have to wait until the space is finished?

As always local code will apply.

Trucon01 11-28-2012 09:04 PM

It will just be used as another family room type area. TV's, audio receiver, lamps, laptop, ipads, etc.

I don't know where the fireplace will be or if I will even put one in. It was just a possibility and wanted to cover all my bases.

k_buz 11-28-2012 09:07 PM

2 15 A circuits
Tamper Resistant Receptacles
AFCI breakers
Smoke/CO Detector

As for the electric fireplace, its either going to be just fine on a 15 A circuit, or its going to have a heating element and require its own circuit. If you know where the fireplace is going to sit, run a dedicated 20A circuit to that spot. If you don't know where it is going to sit, run it when you get it.


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