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NotSoElectric 09-04-2011 03:15 PM

14/3 Power Cord in conduit
 
I want to install a motion light for the steps and walkway on my open front porch. I currently have an outlet under my eave a short distance from the porch location I want to install the light. The outlet is on an indoor switch and was installed by the builder for Xmas lights. I use the outlet from time to time for various power tools in my driveway via an extension cord. I would like to keep the existing outlet, install a weatherproof outlet box, mount a raised 4 inch weatherproof box for my motion light and run a 5 foot 14/3 stranded wire power tool replacement cord from the outlet to the motion light. I am concerned that the power cord should be protected from the elements. Can I safely run the 5 foot power cord from the outlet to the light through 1/2 inch electric conduit? Would it be better to buy a length of weatherproof or underground wire and add a plug? If yes, could you recommend a very good all weather plug? I've had problems in the past with faulty plugs. Using a power cord with a molded 3-prong plug attached would be ideal for me providing it is safe. Thanks in advance!

secutanudu 09-04-2011 06:01 PM

You cannot use romex outside, period.

If you are using conduit, then run individual THWN conductors. They sell this at HD/Lowe's.

Jim Port 09-04-2011 07:02 PM

Flexible cord cannot be used as a substitute for building wiring. Use THWN conductors in conduit like Andy suggested.

Code05 09-04-2011 08:43 PM

It is a pain in the a$$, but you can use UF in conduit.

secutanudu 09-04-2011 08:46 PM

I guess I didn't read closely enough...i saw 14/3 and assumed he meant romex. I agree with Jim... You definitely cannot use the cord you are planning to use for building wiring.

Code05 09-04-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secutanudu (Post 721204)
I guess I didn't read closely enough...i saw 14/3 and assumed he meant romex. I agree with Jim... You definitely cannot use the cord you are planning to use for building wiring.

Either way, cord or romex won't cut as you said. I was just offering an alternative to single THWN conductors.

mpoulton 09-04-2011 09:08 PM

Regardless of what kind of wire you use (which can't be flexible cord or romex), you can't plug your light into the receptacle. You need to wire it in. Since there's a receptacle right there, that won't be too difficult.

anesthes 09-05-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by secutanudu (Post 721131)
You cannot use romex outside, period.

If you are using conduit, then run individual THWN conductors. They sell this at HD/Lowe's.

When you say Romex, I think you are going to confuse people. Romex, while often used as a trade name for NM, makes all sorts of wire. For example, I have a roll of Romex UF-B that is perfectly acceptable outside, under direct UV light.

While NM-B would not be acceptable.

-- Joe

anesthes 09-05-2011 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotSoElectric (Post 721046)
I want to install a motion light for the steps and walkway on my open front porch. I currently have an outlet under my eave a short distance from the porch location I want to install the light. The outlet is on an indoor switch and was installed by the builder for Xmas lights. I use the outlet from time to time for various power tools in my driveway via an extension cord. I would like to keep the existing outlet, install a weatherproof outlet box, mount a raised 4 inch weatherproof box for my motion light and run a 5 foot 14/3 stranded wire power tool replacement cord from the outlet to the motion light. I am concerned that the power cord should be protected from the elements. Can I safely run the 5 foot power cord from the outlet to the light through 1/2 inch electric conduit? Would it be better to buy a length of weatherproof or underground wire and add a plug? If yes, could you recommend a very good all weather plug? I've had problems in the past with faulty plugs. Using a power cord with a molded 3-prong plug attached would be ideal for me providing it is safe. Thanks in advance!

If you purchase a motion light with a UL listed outdoor cord and plug, you can use it for this application (you wouldn't use the conduit). I must add, the device must also be approved for "current interruption". Otherwise, it is NOT meant to be switched.

If you are intending on purchasing a light assembly mean to be hard wired, you could not wire a cord to it and plug it in.

The difference is the intended use of the device. A weather resistant "assembly complete with cord" versus a product meant to be installed per electrical codes and regulations.

-- Joe

secutanudu 09-05-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anesthes (Post 721471)
When you say Romex, I think you are going to confuse people. Romex, while often used as a trade name for NM, makes all sorts of wire. For example, I have a roll of Romex UF-B that is perfectly acceptable outside, under direct UV light.

While NM-B would not be acceptable.

-- Joe

Fair enough, but 99% of the world calls NM-B romex :)

ddawg16 09-05-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anesthes (Post 721471)
When you say Romex, I think you are going to confuse people. Romex, while often used as a trade name for NM, makes all sorts of wire. For example, I have a roll of Romex UF-B that is perfectly acceptable outside, under direct UV light.

While NM-B would not be acceptable.

-- Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by secutanudu (Post 721480)
Fair enough, but 99% of the world calls NM-B romex :)

About like Formica and Coke....trade names but people associate it with a product....

FWIW.....I call it Romex....


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