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Old 05-26-2013, 06:26 AM   #1
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So I just installed a ceiling fan for some friends of mine. I guess this is the new trend - the light kit has 3 bulbs in it, with standard medium bases. But the fixture came with 3 CFL bulbs. The problem is, the light kit is connected to a dimmer switch (and the fan to a fan control).

It says 13W max on the bulbs. My thought is that they are putting that label on there to fulfill "environmentalist" concerns - but I know I should not exceed the listed capacity.

Out of curiosity - is it a bad idea to just put 60W bulbs in there? Or do they need to get dimmable CFLs?

Also - will dimmable CFLs work with a standard dimmer?
This is the switch they got: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lutron-Sk...2#.UaHzGZwpEuc

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So I just installed a ceiling fan for some friends of mine. I guess this is the new trend - the light kit has 3 bulbs in it, with standard medium bases. But the fixture came with 3 CFL bulbs. The problem is, the light kit is connected to a dimmer switch (and the fan to a fan control).

It says 13W max on the bulbs. My thought is that they are putting that label on there to fulfill "environmentalist" concerns - but I know I should not exceed the listed capacity.

Out of curiosity - is it a bad idea to just put 60W bulbs in there? Or do they need to get dimmable CFLs?

Also - will dimmable CFLs work with a standard dimmer?
This is the switch they got: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lutron-Sk...2#.UaHzGZwpEuc
You are lucky you got medium bases, what happened is, the government decided the end user was to stupid to buy their own light bulbs, so they enforced that manufactures supply energy efficient lamps with every fan that contained a light kit, some manufactures did the math and decided it was cheaper to just install candelabra style sockets and supply very inexpensive candelabra incandescent lamps , instead of very expensive CLF lamps...

It is VERY rare to find a fan light kit with medium base sockets, and every one I install the owner complains how dark it is....

I personally would just change out the dimmer in your application to a dimmer friendly CFL device.

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So change the bulb to a dimmer CFL? That's what I'm thinking.

Are these fixtures really not able to handle 3 60W bulbs?
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So change the bulb to a dimmer CFL? That's what I'm thinking.

Are these fixtures really not able to handle 3 60W bulbs?
They probably are, but who knows if the trims are, at the end of the day, if something happens, you know where the blame starts.
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True, and it IS in a 3-year-old's bedroom. Best not to take chances.
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True, and it IS in a 3-year-old's bedroom. Best not to take chances.
If I was hired to do this job, I would either remove the dimmer altogether, or find a compatible dimmer. Those would be my only two options for the homeowner.
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If there was a combination fan control + NON dimmer, i'd have them buy that. But I don't think one exists that fits into a single gang box, and I really dont feel like installing a new box.

It looks like that line of Lutron dimmers is compatible with dimmable CFLs, so hopefully some new lamps will take care of it.
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I take that back - I really can't find info on that switch one way or another. I wonder if we're better installing a 2-gang box, with separate switches for fan and lights.
The switch doesn't have a neutral connected to it. Does that tell me it's not?
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Before I went and changed the box, I'd try some dimmable fluorescent lamps. They may work just fine with a standard dimmer.
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I take that back - I really can't find info on that switch one way or another. I wonder if we're better installing a 2-gang box, with separate switches for fan and lights.
The switch doesn't have a neutral connected to it. Does that tell me it's not?
I just did a quick search, i couldn't find any combo switches that would do CFL's, next option is to create a two gang and buy separate fan and light switches.
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Hmm, what about this?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lutron-Sk...ct_description

Looks a "slide to off" fan control and a rocker on/off for the light.
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Before I went and changed the box, I'd try some dimmable fluorescent lamps. They may work just fine with a standard dimmer.
Probably end up with a strange flicker near the low end of the dimmer, no?
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Or...maybe find a new light kit with incandescents.
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Probably end up with a strange flicker near the low end of the dimmer, no?
Maybe, maybe not. When the spiral fluorescent lamps first became popular, I used many on already installed dimmers and they worked just fine. Things may have changed since however. Its worth a shot.
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Maybe, maybe not. When the spiral fluorescent lamps first became popular, I used many on already installed dimmers and they worked just fine. Things may have changed since however. Its worth a shot.
That it is... I've been using dimmers by Lutron that have a low end adjustment so you eliminate the flicker and or early cut off.

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