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Old 07-17-2014, 08:25 AM   #31
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Right now, I'm thinking ground prong up is the safest bet.
Doesn't matter. I break the ground prongs off anyway

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Every code cycle the CMP's receive dozens of proposals regarding this. They refuse to rule on this. It is not governed by the NEC. In my area generally speaking union electricians install ground up. Non union ground down. Additionally you will find ground up in health care facilities. The reason is if an object such as a paper clip falls betwee the plug and receptacle it will deflect without shorting a circuit such as a critical care circuit. Thus not shutting off equipment used for patient care.
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A wall plug I've seen a few times that I like a lot is this one.

Not sure where it's from, but it seems like a really good idea though I'm sure it costs more to make so we'll never have such a design. Obviously it's not grounded, but the concept is good.

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was told that if a metal plate came loose, as they do on occassion, and they fall down, they will short the two lugs if something were plugged in. no metal plate - no need.

actually had my son trying to insert a plug in the dark (basement receptacle - metal plate) and drew sparks, because he had the plug oriented normal (ground down) and I had the receptacle ground up.

So the jury is out on which is safer.... in my opinion
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Since being PC is all the craze right now, whether you like the ground prong up or down - we all need to be accepting of alternative wiring styles.
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was told that if a metal plate came loose, as they do on occassion, and they fall down, they will short the two lugs if something were plugged in. no metal plate - no need.

actually had my son trying to insert a plug in the dark (basement receptacle - metal plate) and drew sparks, because he had the plug oriented normal (ground down) and I had the receptacle ground up.

So the jury is out on which is safer.... in my opinion
Were you able to figure out why it sparked?
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A wall plug I've seen a few times that I like a lot is this one.

Not sure where it's from, but it seems like a really good idea though I'm sure it costs more to make so we'll never have such a design. Obviously it's not grounded, but the concept is good.

European plug at 220 volts.
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It is the euro plug. Rated 2.5 amps at 250V.

Better design is the german schuko. Rated 16 amps at 250V.
It is grounded no matter which way you stick the plug in.
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Given the greater usage of plastic plates this gets less relevant as time passes. I don't think I have seen anything drop across the prongs.
Oh, I've seen it many times and it hasnt hurt anyone but has scared the crap out of them. Mostly where a cord was plugged in and slightly pulled out and various items fell right across the hot/neutral. Necklaces, thin metal objects, etc... We do tons of service calls i've seen a dozen or so over the years so not sure how many times it happens over the nation.

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Were you able to figure out why it sparked?
buest i could guess is that he was kind of probing with the plug for the receptacle (i think we all have done on occassion) got one prong of the plug into the hot, and the other was touching the metal (grounded) faceplate completing the circuit. the load must have been turned on, can't remember what it was, so the current began to flow. i was in the room, heard it, saw it.
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was told that if a metal plate came loose, as they do on occassion, and they fall down, they will short the two lugs if something were plugged in. no metal plate - no need.
I have heard this for 44 years and have yet to see any proff of this happening and if the plate came lose and shorted out that would be YOUR SIGN, to tighten the plate screws.


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actually had my son trying to insert a plug in the dark (basement receptacle - metal plate) and drew sparks, because he had the plug oriented normal (ground down) and I had the receptacle ground up.

So the jury is out on which is safer.... in my opinion
If he could short it ground up he could have done the reverse.

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SO in your opinion-The jury is out on which is safer


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So the outlets will work equally well no matter what there orientation,
But leckies like some uniformity so most will put them ground down,
Probably no great technical reason why,
Just uniformity.

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