Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-06-2012, 08:42 PM   #16
Licensed electrician
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,598
Rewards Points: 30
Share |
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


The warmer the cable is the easier it seems to strip. I don't know if the older stuff is the same way.

__________________
Answers based on the National Electrical Code. Local amendments may apply. Check with your local building officials.
Jim Port is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2012, 08:52 PM   #17
E2 Electrician
 
stickboy1375's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Litchfield, CT
Posts: 5,103
Rewards Points: 38
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Port View Post
The warmer the cable is the easier it seems to strip. I don't know if the older stuff is the same way.
Ive never had good luck even with warmer temps... They certainly were not thinking of the installer when making this stuff back in the day, usually you will see it installed with the grey outer jacket still intact with maybe 1/2 an inch stripped just so they knew how to identify the conductors.
stickboy1375 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2012, 09:35 PM   #18
Licensed electrician
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,598
Rewards Points: 30
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Leave the new stuff in the sun and the outer sheath is like butter. You just need to make sure not to go too deep and into the conductor insulation. I skin from the outside in and peel the conductors out.
__________________
Answers based on the National Electrical Code. Local amendments may apply. Check with your local building officials.
Jim Port is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2012, 09:52 PM   #19
E2 Electrician
 
stickboy1375's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Litchfield, CT
Posts: 5,103
Rewards Points: 38
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Port View Post
Leave the new stuff in the sun and the outer sheath is like butter. You just need to make sure not to go too deep and into the conductor insulation. I skin from the outside in and peel the conductors out.
I use the Klein brand, but i just use these on UF, works perfect.
stickboy1375 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2012, 07:06 AM   #20
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 159
Rewards Points: 0
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Quote:
Originally Posted by stickboy1375 View Post
try to strip the UF BEFORE you insert it into the box, this should save you some aggravation.
that was on the agenda
collegetry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 07:00 PM   #21
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 159
Rewards Points: 0
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


First broke up the concrete around the fence post, dug trench , ran UF in the trench, sleeved it in PVC stub up, installed box, outlet & in use cover, then mixed up a little concrete to replace what I broke up, The UF was not that bad to strip and I did strip it before feeding it into the stub up. Now waiting on the Arlington mounting block to arrive so I can finish with the outlet on the siding. T

Last edited by collegetry; 06-10-2013 at 12:31 PM.
collegetry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 07:08 PM   #22
Member
 
Missouri Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Almost Arkansas
Posts: 2,764
Rewards Points: 0
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


SO..............are you going to paint that pipe white?
__________________
Do you want it your way or the right way?
Missouri Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 07:12 PM   #23
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 159
Rewards Points: 0
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Quote:
Originally Posted by Missouri Bound View Post
SO..............are you going to paint that pipe white?
are you suggesting I paint it? why?
collegetry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 07:15 PM   #24
Electrical Contractor
 
jbfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Newnan GA
Posts: 5,798
Rewards Points: 30
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Receptacle is upside down!
__________________
Yes I am a Pirate, 200 years too late. "Jimmy Buffett"
jbfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 07:17 PM   #25
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 159
Rewards Points: 0
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Quote:
Originally Posted by jbfan View Post
Receptacle is upside down!
There is no upside down for a duplex receptacle. I always put the ground plug toward the top.
collegetry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 07:18 PM   #26
E2 Electrician
 
stickboy1375's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Litchfield, CT
Posts: 5,103
Rewards Points: 38
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Quote:
Originally Posted by collegetry View Post
There is no upside down for a duplex receptacle. I always put the ground plug toward the top.
JBfan knows... he is being a joker. And I agree, it's upside down.
stickboy1375 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to stickboy1375 For This Useful Post:
jbfan (08-08-2012), Missouri Bound (08-08-2012)
Old 08-08-2012, 07:24 PM   #27
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 159
Rewards Points: 0
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


with the grounding slot on top, a falling metal object like a picture frame will bounce of a partially exposed plug with no harm done. With the grounding slot on the bottom, an object that falls on a partially exposed plug could short across the hot and nuetral blades of the plug.

Nothing hanging above this plug but thats my reasoning and the way I've done it inside the house.

Whats your guys reasoning for saying the grounding slot on the bottom?

And dont say because it makes a nice smiley face
collegetry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 07:24 PM   #28
Licensed Electrician
 
k_buz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 4,340
Rewards Points: 0
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Upside down!
__________________
__________________________________________________ ______________
Answers based on the National Electric Code. Always check local amendments.


k_buz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to k_buz For This Useful Post:
stickboy1375 (08-08-2012)
Old 08-08-2012, 07:27 PM   #29
E2 Electrician
 
stickboy1375's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Litchfield, CT
Posts: 5,103
Rewards Points: 38
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Quote:
Originally Posted by collegetry View Post
with the grounding slot on top, a falling metal object like a picture frame will bounce of a partially exposed plug with no harm done. With the grounding slot on the bottom, an object that falls on a partially exposed plug could short across the hot and nuetral blades of the plug.
Yeah okay... any data on this theory? I would love to see a metal object being dropped against the wall to see how many times it falls towards the grounded conductor vs ungrounded conductor... lol....


nice job by the way, it came out perfect. Dont mind the upside down and rightside up jargon, its mostly just funny business.

Last edited by stickboy1375; 08-08-2012 at 07:31 PM.
stickboy1375 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 07:27 PM   #30
Member
 
Missouri Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Almost Arkansas
Posts: 2,764
Rewards Points: 0
Default

12-3 UF cable with No Ground


Not sure how an object is going to fall on a partially exposed plug under a weatherproof cover. The writing on the receptacle is upside down, right? That's a clue as to how it is intended to be installed.

__________________
Do you want it your way or the right way?
Missouri Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
50 Amps for a garage help IcyShadowz Electrical 48 05-31-2012 10:58 PM
running outdoor cable from house to detached shed above ground amakarevic Electrical 2 11-19-2010 02:16 PM
Can I ground an outlet via a cable jack? OhNevermindMe Electrical 7 04-15-2010 10:06 PM
Ground rod or not? brotherman Electrical 30 07-15-2008 04:58 PM
Cable and telephone ground jerryh3 Electrical 12 06-16-2008 08:11 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.