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Old 11-21-2008, 10:05 AM   #1
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I am about to run an additional 20A circuit in my kitchen to feed a couple of receptacles. I plan to use 12/2 wire. I have some leftover 12/2 wire which I originally purchased for baseboard heaters. This wire was sold as 12/2 "heater wire". It has red outer sheathing and the 2 wires are coloured black and red instead of black and white. As far as I can tell, other than these differences, it is identical to regular 12/2 wire.

Can it be used as regular 12/2 wire or is there a reason it should only be used to supply heaters?

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Red, Black and bare ground right? The neutral for wire this size (12/2) must be white or gray. The color combination you have is used for 220 volt circuits. Because you have no white or gray in your cable I do not think it would be compliant.

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No, you cant. Unless you are wiring a 240v only circuit.

No re identifying conductors unless its something like a switch loop.
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You can sell the surplus wire on ebay probably, there's a pretty good market.
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The wire is red, black and bare ground. I had a sneaking feeling it was only for 220V anyway. I was just hoping to save myself a trip to go and buy some more 12/2, but better now than after the inspector rejects it.

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What you have is like other people said is for 240V loads(i.e. baseboards, hwt) The only differnece in the other 12/2 is that the red conductor will be white.

If it were me and it was not being inspected I would reindentify the red wire with some white electrical tape and call it done. This is a code violation but not neccesarily a safety concern.
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What you have is like other people said is for 240V loads(i.e. baseboards, hwt) The only differnece in the other 12/2 is that the red conductor will be white.

If it were me and it was not being inspected I would reindentify the red wire with some white electrical tape and call it done. This is a code violation but not neccesarily a safety concern.

Nah, I like to keep it code.
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Are you sure that its uncompliant with your local code?
Its quite acceptable to paint or otherwise identify a neutral in my area!
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Are you sure that its uncompliant with your local code?
Its quite acceptable to paint or otherwise identify a neutral in my area!
what is your area and do they accept the NEC as their code?
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what is your area and do they accept the NEC as their code?
No! Its the Ontario Electrical Safety code!
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No! Its the Ontario Electrical Safety code!
then maybe your situation is more applicable since the OP is from "Left Coast, Canuckistan". I presume that is meant to be Canada.
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then maybe your situation is more applicable since the OP is from "Left Coast, Canuckistan". I presume that is meant to be Canada.
Yes, I would think that you are right! For sure the NEC is not the legal governing code, although by the most part our OES engineers just copy the NEC and collect large salary's.

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