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Old 07-19-2012, 07:31 PM   #1
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I was wondering if any of you know why 134A price has basically doubled over last year. I use this in my old ford truck. I had it converted from R12, a few years ago. But there is a small leak somewhere in the system that my mechanic just can't find. Even when we have inserted dyes.

And we tried a can with a leak stop in it. But it did not help.

Anyway I loos about one can a year. Last year I could get a can for $5.00 or less. Now your lucky to find it under $10.00.

Just wondering if it is due to increased demand. Higher profits. Or has the government taxed it, like they did to R12?
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I was wondering if any of you know why 134A price has basically doubled over last year. I use this in my old ford truck. I had it converted from R12, a few years ago. But there is a small leak somewhere in the system that my mechanic just can't find. Even when we have inserted dyes.

And we tried a can with a leak stop in it. But it did not help.

Anyway I loos about one can a year. Last year I could get a can for $5.00 or less. Now your lucky to find it under $10.00.

Just wondering if it is due to increased demand. Higher profits. Or has the government taxed it, like they did to R12?
if you need it you pay for it right..... they have us over the barrell.....ceo's linning there pockets just my thought.....
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if you need it you pay for it right..... they have us over the barrell.....ceo's linning there pockets just my thought.....
They're preparing for the phase out of R134A.
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Any info on the compatibility with the systems using 134A. Will you be able to just suck out the 134A and charge with the new stuff or will you have to retro fit... if you even can.

Like myself i know a lot of folks that have older cars that took R12, and when their AC needed a recharge or top off, due to the expense of R12, converted to 134A. And I mean converted, not just a valve change and evac and recharge.

And we don't want to get rid of our great old cars/trucks. We like they way they look and so on.
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They haven't decided on another refrigerant yet.
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Sounds like "our' government at work! I know we took at away from you, but we are working on something we will give you?????? And it may or may not work.
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Sounds like "our' government at work! I know we took at away from you, but we are working on something we will give you?????? And it may or may not work.
When R134A came out, it was only a "short term" refrigerant.
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I was wondering if any of you know why 134A price has basically doubled over last year. I use this in my old ford truck. I had it converted from R12, a few years ago. But there is a small leak somewhere in the system that my mechanic just can't find. Even when we have inserted dyes.

And we tried a can with a leak stop in it. But it did not help.

Anyway I loos about one can a year. Last year I could get a can for $5.00 or less. Now your lucky to find it under $10.00.

Just wondering if it is due to increased demand. Higher profits. Or has the government taxed it, like they did to R12?
Tell him to check the mechanical connections on the lines and dryer to make sure theyre tight,also check shrader valves.
Your hoses might also be an issue depending on age,I seem to remember being an issue when 134 came out about size of molecules allowing it to leak through some hoses.
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its probably the evaporator. its pretty hard to get a good look at em. and checking the drain doesn't always tell.
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He has tried with dyes and even with one of those "sniffers. We just nave not found it. But I loose about one can a year. So you know it is a small leak. And it my only leak under certain situation, like when he engine torques just right. But in looking he has pulled this, jiggled that, and so on.

Just found out that a place called Rural King has 134 in sale 4.99 per can, or 119.99 for 30lbs. Darn nice price. Today is last day of sale.
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They haven't decided on another refrigerant yet.
Ammonia might get it done.
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Ammonia might get it done.
As I recall that was used at one time. But it killed folks.. If I am recalling history correctly.
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As I recall that was used at one time. But it killed folks.. If I am recalling history correctly.
Its still used today.
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Check the compressor seal closely. It may be leaking when in use and stops when the system is turned off. I have a 88 chevy pickup that does this.
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