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Old 12-24-2011, 05:49 PM   #1
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Water boiler spout leak issue


Hi there,

I live in a condo townhome consisting of 3 floors (I live on the first floor). Each floor has their own water heater and water boiler.

The 2nd floor boiler was leaking so the plumber they hired fixed it and he offered to drain/flush the air from my pipes with my 26-year-old. The water that came out from the spout was dark brown/black. When he shut off the water, I noticed it still dripping. He has come back twice to "fix" the leak. The last time he came, he capped it with a washer inside. The water still collects in the cap and the water slowly leaks from the cap.

A family friend suggested I use teflon tape (plumber's tape) around the thread of the spout and then put the cap on. I did that and I think I see another drip right above the spout. Did I "disturb" this 26-year-old pipe? I put white tape around the drip/leak but it still leaks (see picture below). When I turn on the heat, there is no dripping. The condo plumber told me I shouldn't have done this or touch the pipes. Ooops.

Should I just have this plumber (or a more competent one) replace the spout with a new one? Do I need a ball valve? Would that help? Or should I just let it drip out slowly and leave it alone?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 12-24-2011, 06:53 PM   #2
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That is a leaking cap nut --it looks like he attempted to fix the valve--I see new teflon tape--

That valve is only about $10---I wonder why he did not just change it?

Time for a new one---Mike---

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Old 12-24-2011, 07:02 PM   #3
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Thanks Mike!

I actually put the new teflon tape (hoping it will stop the leak which it didn't). So the valve, do you mean the blue handle and the spout? Basically from the white tape on the right to the entire left needs to change? Is the spout considered a valve?

Is the change hard to do? Is soldering involved? Can the blue round handle be changed to a ball valve?

Don't know why he didn't change it. He's come three times since he drained/flushed the air out because two other areas were leaking.

Sorry for the girly questions

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That's a boiler drain. Simple changeout, looks to be threaded into a tee. The water will need to be turned off, the system drained before you can replace the valve. And unless you own the building, you aren't allowed to work on the mechanicals. Let the condo plumber fix it.
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Step 1-turn the water off. (Lower valve)
Step 2- unscrew old leaking valve out of T
Step 3- install new valve with compound on threads
Step 4- turn water back on & check for leaks
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Thanks sooo much!!

So does that mean I need to replace the section from the white thread on the right to the entire left including the blue round thing? Can I replace the blue round handle with a ball valve or is that different and doesn't apply?

I have a feeling by turning off the lower valve, it may disturb it (since it leaked after he drained it) again. So he may have to solder it and replace it with a ball valve? Or use teflon tape again? And not touch it ever again?

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Old 12-24-2011, 07:33 PM   #7
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so he changed the water in your heating system and left it leaking and that isn't a cap for a petcock as you have hand tight that should of sealed but a drip is no big deal did the braqin surgeon plumber tighten the packing on valves that haven't been moved in years take an adjustable and tighten them easy turns don't need to crank them...and the drip no big deal.....cut a plastic soda bottle with a string and hang it under the petcock...by the way changing the water in an sealed system as you and the others has is like changing the air in your car tires....hope you didn't pay him even if its part of your maint fees and if there was water in all the pipes under pressure how did air get in there...
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biggles,

This plumber was hired by the 2nd floor owner (I live on the first floor). He is probably a "plumber friend" who fixed the leak in their boiler.

I came home from work on Tuesday and saw him cleaning up. When I looked to make sure there were no leaks (all of our boilers are in one room), he offered to drain the air from my system. Since I didn't know any better, I did. Big mistake because nothing was wrong with my pipes or valves (except that I didn't feel much heat last winter - so he may have fixed that part of making the water run through my pipes).

I didn't pay him anything (he wouldn't accept my tip). Good thing. He's come back three times and still this problem.

So you suggest I don't touch it (not replacing the valve) and just put a soda bottle underneath?
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I won't be using the plumber the condo uses. He will charge me an arm and leg. I asked how much it would change all 4 valves to ball valves and he said $700!

This plumber who made a mess of my pipes/valves was hired by the 2nd floor owner (I live on the first floor). He is probably a "plumber friend" who fixed the leak in their boiler.

I came home from work on Tuesday and saw him cleaning up. When I looked to make sure there were no leaks (all of our boilers are in one room), he offered to drain the air from my system. Since I didn't know any better, I did. Big mistake because nothing was wrong with my pipes or valves (except that I didn't feel much heat last winter - so he may have fixed that part of making the water run through my pipes).

I didn't pay him anything (he wouldn't accept my tip). Good thing. He's come back three times and still have this problem.

So should I not touch it (not replacing the valve) and just put a soda bottle underneath as someone suggested?
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HA. Oddly enough those small drips tend to stop in a short period of time, that is until the valve is disturbed again. You can put something under it and keep an eye on it...it may just stop.....until the valve is used again.
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The drip might be cured by simply tightening the small nut right under the handle---that's the 'cap nut'

Under that nut is a soft string like packing--Tightening the but will compress the packing and stop the drip.
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Missouri Bound, I hope that is the case

oh'mike, sorry to be dense. do you mean the nut left of the cap (right next to the white tape on the left)? Tighten that (turn towards me - or clockwise)? Before I put the white tape on (one on left), it looked like one whole piece to me until I saw it dripping underneath...so to me it must be two separate pieces. Ha.

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It's hard to determine whre the drip originates...is it from that nut which you put the tape on, or is it from the stem and just winds up on the nut?
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yes, the drip is coming from right underneath the white tape (one on the left which i did). sorry, where is the "stem"? i'm really new to this.

so you know, i just put white tape around it. i didn't turn anything (i am afraid to disturb the system further).
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that drip is from the packing nut as mike and others said... tighten up the nut drip will stop.....don't know who put teflon tape on packing ...never did it in 30 yrs....never had too.... tighten up both nuts left of cap on valve..

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