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dooge 09-13-2011 10:02 AM

Universal fan motor??
 
My fan motor recently blew and I am going to attempt to find a replacement and fix it myself. I am having a hard time finding the exact motor as the original.

My friend asked his HVAC buddy and he said I could use a universal fan motor.

Has anyone ever tried one of these? Are they any good? I'm just skeptical as to how great it will work with my ac unit seeing how the voltage and other things vary from machine to machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Code05 09-13-2011 10:09 AM

Where are looking? Any decent supply house can find a replacement if it is not really old.

dooge 09-13-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Code05 (Post 727229)
Where are looking? Any decent supply house can find a replacement if it is not really old.

I live in Calvert County MD. I have been able to find supply houses that say they have the part but will not sell to me because I am not HVAC certified.

The guy my friend talked to was able to find one for cheap and much closer but it's universal.

Sorry, perhaps I should have explained a little better:)

Code05 09-13-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dooge (Post 727235)
I live in Calvert County MD. I have been able to find supply houses that say they have the part but will not sell to me because I am not HVAC certified.

The guy my friend talked to was able to find one for cheap and much closer but it's universal.

Sorry, perhaps I should have explained a little better:)

The supply house is full of it. You do not have to be HVAC certified to get a motor.
PS. Who is the company, I will call and ream them out.

You have to be be EPA certified to get freon, but that is different.

Some companies make UL listed replacements, if your "universal" motor qualifies and is the correct size, voltage, and such: put in in.

What is your make and model?

dooge 09-13-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Code05 (Post 727242)
The supply house is full of it. You do not have to be HVAC certified to get a motor.
PS. Who is the company, I will call and ream them out.

You have to be be EPA certified to get freon, but that is different.

Some companies make UL listed replacements, if your "universal" motor qualifies and is the correct size, voltage, and such: put in in.

What is your make and model?

Thanks a lot man. Yeah, I figured they were giving me some BS.

The supply house is Lyon Conklin and Co. They kept asking me what company I was with. I told them I wasn't with any company and they blew me off. They just want me to use one of their service techs so I pay them $120 to tell me something I already know.

By all means call them and let them have it!:censored:

Below are pics of my blower motor numbers and my Trane XB13 numbers.

JJboy 09-13-2011 02:24 PM

You need the new motor have the same RPM, HP, AMP

kb3ca 09-13-2011 02:46 PM

Look in the yellow pages under electric motors. Any of those companies can get you an exact replacement motor. No HVAC license required.

Doc Holliday 09-13-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Code05 (Post 727242)
The supply house is full of it. You do not have to be HVAC certified to get a motor.
PS. Who is the company, I will call and ream them out.

You have to be be EPA certified to get freon, but that is different.

Some companies make UL listed replacements, if your "universal" motor qualifies and is the correct size, voltage, and such: put in in.

What is your make and model?


If you are not hvac certified/registered you can not buy a soda from the Coke machine at supply houses here. They will not sell to anyone, no 410-A which one does not even have to be EPA certified to handle unless you are a contractor or a hand tool or cap or a motor, not anything unless you are verifiabley in the trade.

Doc Holliday 09-13-2011 05:16 PM

I think it has to do with insurance reasons, why they're so strict around here. Now those are the big supply houses that sell American Standard and Trane and Rheem and Ruud, Lennox and Goodman etc., etc., but there are a few mom and pop hvac shops that will sell any refrigerant or whatever to anyone off the street.

Doc Holliday 09-13-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JJboy (Post 727374)
You need the new motor have the same RPM, HP, AMP


yup yup. Thing about replacement motors is you can go up in hp and keep the same rpm. You can go from a 1/5 to a 1/4 or 1/3 and as long as the total amp draw of the condenser is within breaker (max fuse) range it will work. Usually you can gain one, two amps without any problems.

rpm should stay the same but even than you see 1075 replacements on 1100 without any problems. Happens daily but that's only 25 rpm, not 100 or more which could lead to severe high head pressure, compressor failure, etc.

Code05 09-13-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday (Post 727470)
If you are not hvac certified/registered you can not buy a soda from the Coke machine at supply houses here. They will not sell to anyone, no 410-A which one does not even have to be EPA certified to handle unless you are a contractor or a hand tool or cap or a motor, not anything unless you are verifiabley in the trade.

Where are you located? That will not fly here. A motor and such is not restricted.

Code05 09-13-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday (Post 727477)
I think it has to do with insurance reasons, why they're so strict around here. Now those are the big supply houses that sell American Standard and Trane and Rheem and Ruud, Lennox and Goodman etc., etc., but there are a few mom and pop hvac shops that will sell any refrigerant or whatever to anyone off the street.

OP wants a motor, not refrigerant. Different beast.

Tator1076 09-13-2011 06:17 PM

Motor.
 
I bet you wish that you call someone instead try to save money on labor. I seen other posting you put up about trying to do it yourself to save on labor. Trane will not sell or redeem warranty part to public. I work for a Trane dealer. Good luck. PS Trane will void warranty on that motor you took apart. There is a seal in the inside of the motor that shows if it been took apart or rebuild. :thumbsup:

Tator1076 09-13-2011 06:21 PM

Re motor
 
I even look up your model and serial number on that unit. It has part warranty until 2015. Coil and compressor 2017. Once again good luck:thumbup:

Doc Holliday 09-13-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Code05 (Post 727499)
Where are you located? That will not fly here. A motor and such is not restricted.


The hvac capitol of the world. :yes:


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