Forums | Home Repair | Home Improvement | Painting | Interior Decorating | Remodeling | Landscaping


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > HVAC

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-02-2012, 08:55 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 210
Share |
Default

Spine fin coils


The American - Standard heat pump I have has spine fin coils in the outdoor unit. I remember my grandmother's house had several old GE zone-line units in it and they all had spine fin coils both on the indoor and outdoor sides. GE window and PTAC units now use conventional plate fin coils. Trane seems to be the exclusive builder of these style coils now. What happened to GE using these? Why don't any other manufacturers use this style coil?

av-geek is offline  
Old 02-03-2012, 04:35 AM   #2
An old Tradesmen
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 23,542
Default

Spine fin coils


Trane bought out GE.

Cost more to make.

beenthere is online now  
Old 02-03-2012, 07:54 AM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 804
Default

Spine fin coils


when a spine fin coil is new its very efficient, when it gets dirty it loses its efficiency x 10, here is a perfect example of DIRTY

harleyrider is offline  
Old 02-03-2012, 01:12 PM   #4
Willing to listen
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: West of St. Louis MO in the country
Posts: 145
Default

Spine fin coils


Torch that coil.
Done That is offline  
Old 02-03-2012, 03:51 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 804
Default

Spine fin coils


Quote:
Originally Posted by Done That View Post
Torch that coil.
if you did that while working for me, you wouldn't be working for me the next day...........do you know what it cost to re-side a house after you burn up the vinyl siding? smart, well educated people do not play with fire.
harleyrider is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to harleyrider For This Useful Post:
Plumber101 (02-03-2012)
Old 02-04-2012, 06:26 AM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PENNSYLVANIA
Posts: 2,139
Default

Spine fin coils


Still good you can still see the coil wrap lines. Special brush to clean them I used to work on GE's many moons ago that had them coils the brush is a roller type that looks almost like the coils them selves it gets right in the spines and pulls the dirt out.
COLDIRON is online now  
Old 02-04-2012, 06:59 AM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 804
Default

Spine fin coils


we use coil cleaner and a garden hose, no one's house gets burnt down and no one gets hurt. (except the homeowners wallet)
harleyrider is offline  
Old 02-04-2012, 07:18 AM   #8
HVAC Tech/ Browns Fan
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Dayton, ohio
Posts: 541
Default

Spine fin coils


You need get a wire brush and pull all that off then take hose to it. Please make sure breaker is off when doing it.
Tator1076 is offline  
Old 02-04-2012, 07:19 AM   #9
HVAC Tech/ Browns Fan
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Dayton, ohio
Posts: 541
Default

Spine fin coils


Quote:
Originally Posted by Done That View Post
Torch that coil.
Wow you are joking right?
Tator1076 is offline  
Old 02-04-2012, 07:24 AM   #10
Member
 
biggles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Long Island
Posts: 3,576
Default

Spine fin coils


commercially saw GE rooftop heat pumps with the spine condensers not a favorite of HVAC guys the worst thing in cleaning is to touch them...wonder if they call for a stronger condenser fan motor to pull air thru them vs a standard coil
biggles is offline  
Old 02-04-2012, 08:40 AM   #11
Part of the Clover Leaf
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NW Burbs of Detroit Mi.
Posts: 1,107
Default

Spine fin coils


Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyrider View Post
if you did that while working for me, you wouldn't be working for me the next day...........do you know what it cost to re-side a house after you burn up the vinyl siding? smart, well educated people do not play with fire.
Ace, as a rookie I flipped when I saw one of the older techs doing that. But then i got my first "cotton wood job". you can easily burn the condenser clean with a low flame on propane or mapp. It is safe for the condenser and and does not make a big burning bon-fire.

To the other Pros I say, "Don't knock it 'til you've tried it".

Last edited by hvac5646; 02-04-2012 at 08:44 AM.
hvac5646 is offline  
Old 02-04-2012, 09:27 AM   #12
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 2,362
Default

Spine fin coils


Cottonwood is our state tree...I hate those coils.
Marty S. is offline  
Old 02-04-2012, 10:02 AM   #13
Member
 
Houston204's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 585
Default

Spine fin coils


I dread cleaning those coils too. I hate to see aluminum bristles on the ground if I have to use coil cleaner on an older unit.

The instructor in a Trane class I took spoke of using a torch to clean them but I thought he was joking.



I'd be interested in watching a video of this procedure performed successfully.
Houston204 is offline  
Old 02-04-2012, 10:27 AM   #14
Member
 
Scottphys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 33
Default

Spine fin coils


WOW! I'm not an HVAC guy but I've never seen a coil that bad before. Seems preventative maintenance is the key for spine coils- Periodically hose-down.

In any case, wouldn't torching risk creating acid in the line set?
Scottphys is offline  
Old 02-04-2012, 10:32 AM   #15
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 804
Default

Spine fin coils


Quote:
Originally Posted by hvac5646 View Post
Ace, as a rookie I flipped when I saw one of the older techs doing that. But then i got my first "cotton wood job". you can easily burn the condenser clean with a low flame on propane or mapp. It is safe for the condenser and and does not make a big burning bon-fire.

To the other Pros I say, "Don't knock it 'til you've tried it".

If you play with fire you get burned, if you play with fire on my payroll, you get FIRED !

harleyrider is offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to clean evaporator coils loftezy HVAC 13 12-22-2011 09:41 AM
Heat coils on same time w/ AC reevtd HVAC 9 03-09-2011 04:58 PM
Seer 10 evap coils bad, Go to Seer 13??? pcumming HVAC 5 09-01-2010 05:21 PM
Coleman Leaky Coils rdwacw HVAC 1 07-15-2010 10:30 PM
Removing spine wall beko Building & Construction 12 02-02-2010 01:15 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.