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peter_holmes 07-24-2009 09:23 PM

Ruud vs Trane
 
I have been quoted 2 different systems Ruud & Trane.

Ruud Configuration:

RUUD Achiever UANL036 3 ton 13 Seer A/C unit
3 ton CE48G44 16 seer A/C bump coil at furnace
RUUD Achiever Super Quiet 80 UGPRO7NBRQR 75,000 BTU 2 stage variable speed Furnace 80%EFF


Trane Configuration:
Trane XR13 3 ton 13 Seer A/C unit
Trane XV95 2 stage variable speed furnace MDL#TUH2B060A9V3VA 95%EFF

The Ruud will cost me about a $1000 less. Can someone comment on the quality of these Ruud systems vis-a-vis Trane. I intend to stay in the house for 6-7 years.

Plumber101 07-24-2009 09:33 PM

Trane is a Trane..Very good brand
American Standard is Tranes second line..Still very good

Rheem is Rheem..Still very good
Ruud is Rheems second line..Again IMO very good

To me you are comparing apples to apples
If you were comparing either one of these to a Ducane (CRAP), Goodman (Again CRAP) then you would be comparing apples to oranges.

GO with either the lowest quote of the company you most feel comfortable with and I think you will be OK

Yoyizit 07-25-2009 01:59 PM

Looking at a report on HVAC reliability published by a leading consumer reporting organization, here were the top rankings:

1. American Standard
2. Rheem
3. Trane
4. Ruud
5. Bryant
6. Carrier

Thurman 07-26-2009 06:28 PM

Thanks for the info, Yoyizit.

Home Air Direct 07-26-2009 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoyizit (Post 306569)
Looking at a report on HVAC reliability published by a leading consumer reporting organization, here were the top rankings:

1. American Standard
2. Rheem
3. Trane
4. Ruud
5. Bryant
6. Carrier

There are actually only 3 individual pieces of equipment here. AS & Trane are the same. Rheem & Ruud are the same. Bryant & Carrier are the same.

I always laugh when the American Standard is judged higher than Trane. They should be on the same line :-)))

It should really look like this:

1. American Standard - Trane
2. Rheem - Ruud
3. Carrier - Bryant

dbh 01-02-2010 11:51 AM

Ruud is crap and i would never ever ever put one in a home or business.

beenthere 01-02-2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thurman (Post 307080)
Thanks for the info, Yoyizit.

Thats not a reliable report.

Trane and American standard come of the same assembly line. Only difference is the color and name tag.


Rheem and Ruud come of the same assembly line. only difference is the color and name tag.

But yet, that report has them listed as different reliabilities. When they are the same units.

beenthere 01-02-2010 12:35 PM

A bad contractor can screw up the install and reliability of any brand.
A good contractor can make any brand unreliable.

Yoyizit 01-02-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beenthere (Post 375310)
Trane and American standard come of the same assembly line.

Rheem and Ruud come of the same assembly line.

And the rating organization, if they want to remain credible, has got to know these things.

At least they are grouped together. These ratings would be less credible if Rheem was at the opposite end from Ruud, and the same with American Standard and Trane.

It's Ordinal Ranking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranking
It does not mean that Carrier is 6x worse than American Standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_measurement

beenthere 01-02-2010 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoyizit (Post 375477)
And the rating organization, if they want to remain credible, has got to know these things.

At least they are grouped together. These ratings would be less credible if Rheem was at the opposite end from Ruud, and the same with American Standard and Trane.

They aren't credible ratings.

The ratings imply that a change of color with a different name tag makes the unit less reliable.

Anybody with a little common sense knows that doesn't change somethings reliability.

The reporting agency uses FLAWED methods. And knows it. And doesn't care.

Or it wouldn't publish such FALSE and MISLEADING information.

Marty S. 01-02-2010 10:29 PM

IMO Trane makes MUCH better equiptment then RUUD. If you live in a cold area then the cost will be equal by the time you move due to fuel savings.

dbh 01-02-2010 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty S. (Post 375585)
IMO Trane makes MUCH better equiptment then RUUD. If you live in a cold area then the cost will be equal by the time you move due to fuel savings.

I agree...my last house had a Trane and never had to do anything to it except change the filter in 8 yrs and it was 5 yrs old when i bought the house.

Home Air Direct 01-02-2010 10:37 PM

Consumer Reporting agencies often use "Consumer" relayed information to work up the ratings. This is probably where the flaws are coming from. A consumer with a financial investment is subjective.

beenthere 01-02-2010 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty S. (Post 375585)
IMO Trane makes MUCH better equipment then RUUD. If you live in a cold area then the cost will be equal by the time you move due to fuel savings.

Does a Trane 95% efficient furnace use less fuel then a Ruud 95% efficient furnace?

Or are Trane service parts so much cheaper then Ruud in your area?

Marty S. 01-03-2010 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beenthere (Post 375598)
Does a Trane 95% efficient furnace use less fuel then a Ruud 95% efficient furnace?

Or are Trane service parts so much cheaper then Ruud in your area?

Of course a 95% of one brand uses the same amount of fuel as the same eff and size as another brand. The quotes are for 80% and 95% though,not the same.


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