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gnikyerffej1 07-31-2013 07:27 PM

Register Not Connected to Duct
 
My 100+ year old house has a retrofitted HVAC system that appears to have been improperly installed. In addition to a register that has no air flow altogether, I have discovered a register that is not directly connected to the duct. Any suggestions on making the connection? Buy scrap ducting and craft a "box" to bridge the divide? Tear off the drywall to access the duct and rebuild it? I tried Googling for advice/techniques but could not find the right combination of terms to render results...

gregzoll 07-31-2013 08:48 PM

Are you sure that it is not a return?

joecaption 08-01-2013 05:57 AM

Without a picture of where it's disconnected, it's hard to suggest how to fix it.
With the system running take a piece of toilet paper and see it sucks up to the register. If it does then it's a return vent and should not have air coming out of it.

RoyalAcresRod 08-01-2013 04:52 PM

With that old of a home, the register may have been part of the original heating system, and is now abandoned.

gnikyerffej1 08-02-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1223569)
Are you sure that it is not a return?

100% positive this is a register and not a return. It's a retrofitted HVAC, enclosed in sheetrock. There is probably a 1-2" gap between the sheetrock and duct.

TarheelTerp 08-02-2013 02:07 PM

The --joint sealed, insulted and supported-- *duct* should be attached to a *boot* which is attached to the wall/ceiling framing.

Then, in turn (after the walls are finished and painted etc) the *register* slips into the boot and then is fastened to the same wall framing the boot is secured to. Anything short of this is inadequate.

Some pictures to browse through HERE
Try to identify what your problem is.
If you still need help... ask.

HVAC1000 08-02-2013 07:36 PM

Can we have some pictures please

gnikyerffej1 08-11-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarheelTerp (Post 1224198)
The --joint sealed, insulted and supported-- *duct* should be attached to a *boot* which is attached to the wall/ceiling framing.

Then, in turn (after the walls are finished and painted etc) the *register* slips into the boot and then is fastened to the same wall framing the boot is secured to. Anything short of this is inadequate.

Some pictures to browse through HERE
Try to identify what your problem is.
If you still need help... ask.

So there is no boot between the register and the duct. Any thoughts?

I am considering positioning a box "saddle" between the two, as tearing down the duct is not an option. Another option might be to seal the existing duct and insert a boot at a different spot.

gnikyerffej1 12-22-2013 04:37 PM

Updated with photographs...
 
Finally had the opportunity to take some photographs. As you might/might not be able to see, there is a good 1-2" between the duct and the drywall.

http://i.imgur.com/rw9snsl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jlM2ooB.jpg

Trucon01 12-22-2013 06:29 PM

Eeek. I'd be concerned that you have a 220 line resting on the jagged edge of your duct work...

gnikyerffej1 12-23-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucon01 (Post 1281691)
Eeek. I'd be concerned that you have a 220 line resting on the jagged edge of your duct work...

Yes, most definitely a compounding factor though something I can secure. The question becomes how to conjoin the existing duct to a vent.

Bob Sanders 12-23-2013 04:07 PM

That's an awkward place to work, and I would probably use roofing tin. It comes in a roll and usually 4 or 5 inches in width. Pretty easy to work with. You can almost cut it with normal scissors. Use pop rivets to connect with the existing duct work, and you may even want to follow that up with a bit of foil tape for a positive seal. Bring it out about 1/4 inch past the finished wall, slice the corners, then fold it back against the wall and tack it.

biggles 12-24-2013 08:28 AM

test fit...take apart a good sized cardboard box shape it into that opening 4 sided..seal with tape to for the box shape... to the back .so now you have a box sticking out of the opening inside that riser,...cut it 1/2" out from the sheet rock bend it back so the register covers that bend...when mounted...:wink: if the air is coming in at the 6 oclock area of that cardboard box your looking into cut it open with a razor...aluminum fabric duct tape to seal that card board collar.....just a thought....:whistling2: I would check all your discharge air supplies for true air no leaks and god knows:eek: what the returns look like,you need to return the conditioned space air sucking and supply the most discharged blowing out heated air into the space...

gnikyerffej1 12-24-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Sanders (Post 1282056)
That's an awkward place to work, and I would probably use roofing tin. It comes in a roll and usually 4 or 5 inches in width. Pretty easy to work with. You can almost cut it with normal scissors. Use pop rivets to connect with the existing duct work, and you may even want to follow that up with a bit of foil tape for a positive seal. Bring it out about 1/4 inch past the finished wall, slice the corners, then fold it back against the wall and tack it.

I poked at this again today, here is what I am thinking:
1. Remove the vents, relocate any serious electrical hazards
2. Trim the existing metal edges
3. Seal the existing holes with galvanized flat sheet, riveted closed
4. Use foil tape to finish seal
5. Further down the riser, cut a large hole the sheet rock
6. Cut a hole in the existing duct and connect a standard register box

Questions
1. Probably best to use an 8" hole saw to get the right cut?
2 How to connect the round end of the register box to the duct?

It seems the alternatives proposed aren't going to create a tight seal...I'm working with something that is seriously rigged.

beenthere 12-24-2013 01:22 PM

Looks like a return. Is it a return or supply.


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