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retired guy 60 07-18-2010 03:29 PM

PSE&G Cool Customer Program
 
PSE&G, my NJ power suplier has a program where they install a cycling switch on your central AC unit that shuts the compressor by remote control during peak useage periods. The notice I received said there will be some discount but I have to call to find out how much. I can do that tomorrow. The program runs from June to Sept. and they indicate that holidays, weekdays after 10PM and weekends will not be affected. It seems that in the month of June they only activated the cycling switch once for a period of about 5 hours according to the PSE&G website. I doubt that the savings will be very much for customers who voluntarily subscribe. It is called the Cool Customer Program. Anyone have any thoughts or reservations about participating in this program?

beenthere 07-18-2010 05:57 PM

If you don't mind your house getting hot when they shut off your A/C. get it.

Proby 07-18-2010 06:14 PM

I don't like the idea of completely shutting down my AC during the hottest times of the day, then it will have to work much harder later on to get back down to a comfortable temperature. It might be better for PSE&G, but not me.

If it limited the temp like a good thermostat will do, then it might be beneficial. But to shut down your compressor completely for 5 hours during peak usage (the hottest part of the day) is lame, IMO.

Yoyizit 07-18-2010 09:43 PM

I had it at the lower level and never noticed it, so I got the more drastic program to save even more money, and they let us cook pretty bad one day so I cancelled it.

What's good for society [conserving energy] may not be good for each individual member of society. It is an unsolvable problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_trap

Proby 07-18-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoyizit (Post 471636)
It is an unsolvable problem.

Sure it is, go nuclear!

Yoyizit 07-18-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Proby (Post 471638)
nuclear!

Like they used to say in the SciFi movies, "There are some things man shouldn't tamper with."
I have my doubts whether the NRC is not a captive regulatory agency. And what were BP's regulators thinking about?

The problem is social, not technical.

Proby 07-18-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoyizit (Post 471641)
The problem is social, not technical.

The problem is only social because they can't handle the capacity because they aren't willing to do what's necessary.

If we had a limited amount of food we could call it a social problem and ask some people to eat less, or we could go out and make more food.

retired guy 60 07-19-2010 05:14 PM

Thanks to all who responded. I called PSE&G today and found out that the savings are small as I expected. If you participate there is a $3.00 per month reduction in your electric bill for the months June through Sept. Should there be a need to shut off your compressor there is an additional savings of $1.00 per day that the compressor is shut off. According to the customer service rep I spoke to the AC compressor is shut off for 15 minutes and then turned on again for another 15 minutes so you still have air conditioning. I suppose that this forced on and off cycling might affect performance.
I decided to pass.

beenthere 07-19-2010 05:48 PM

When it near your design temp. And they do that. Your house will become hot.

yuri 07-19-2010 07:31 PM

And very humid. Takes a LONG time to de-humidify air. 15 minutes won't cut it. Unit runs a lot harder/higher head pressure which will actually draw more electricity and cost you more. Lennox is coming out with some EXOTIC solar panel boost system and my salesguys have sold some XC17's and the solar is going ahead soon. Guess who gets to look after it? Me:yes:

TJ_in_IL 07-19-2010 09:07 PM

Here in Illinois, my local power company, ComEd has a "smart meter" program, which allows participants to pay based on hourly demand prices, called Residential Real Time Pricing, based on actual market prices per KwH. I have been on the program for 3 months now, and have saved $75.00. Now that we are in the peak summer season, rates during the day are higher, so I "pre-cool" my house at night, when prices are lower, and the A/C is off during the day. I know... "Where's your point TJ??" They also offer an A/C cycling program on top of that. The 50% option Time: Weekdays (excluding holidays), 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Unit cycles off: Maximum of 15 minutes every half hour (if needed). You receive: $5 credit/month per household, June 1 through September 30. The total credit will be $20. 100% option Time: Weekdays (excluding holidays), 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Unit cycles off: Up to one continuous 3-hour period during any weekday (if needed). You receive: $10 credit/month per household, June 1 through September 30. The total credit will be $40. Since my A/C is off from 6AM until 11PM anyway, I signed up, and will be saving an additional $40.00. Sounds like ComEd is giving a better deal than PSE&G.

Forgot to mention-
For my A/C not being on for the whole day, I only see a 4-6 degree rise in temperature, and the outside temps have been reaching 90-92. I have my fan cycle for 5 minutes each hour to help eliminate "hot spots" in the house, which also helps.

veesubotee 07-20-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beenthere (Post 472045)
When it near your design temp. And they do that. Your house will become hot.

So far, we have had about 30 days at or above design in So. Jersey.

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Originally Posted by yuri (Post 472093)
And very humid. Takes a LONG time to de-humidify air. 15 minutes won't cut it. Unit runs a lot harder/higher head pressure which will actually draw more electricity and cost you more. Lennox is coming out with some EXOTIC solar panel boost system and my salesguys have sold some XC17's and the solar is going ahead soon. Guess who gets to look after it? Me:yes:

Yuri, you are da man.

Proby 07-20-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by veesubotee (Post 472290)
So far, we have had about 30 days at or above design in So. Jersey.

Yeah, I am really getting sick of this heat (and humidity).

paul_r 09-30-2011 01:30 PM

I live in Northern NJ and am signing up for the PSE&G program. They claim that they only have a few "cycling events" per year.


2005:2, 2006:1, 2007:1, 2008:3, 2009:0, 2010:1

Not much of a downside as far as I can see.

beenthere 09-30-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by paul_r (Post 738981)
I live in Northern NJ and am signing up for the PSE&G program. They claim that they only have a few "cycling events" per year.


2005:2, 2006:1, 2007:1, 2008:3, 2009:0, 2010:1

Not much of a downside as far as I can see.

Except those cycling events were on the hottest days of the year, when you need your A/C the most.


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