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Old 03-07-2012, 07:40 PM   #1
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If you go into a city and preform work and you are not licensed in the city you or your company does the work what happens?

Here in KS it is pretty ignorant. Smaller cities don't have code or code official.

I work in three larger cities which require licencing and inspections. Two of the larger cities if you are caught will ticket you and even haul your butt to jail. The third city code officials don't have the city commission behind them for enforcement. Two of the member of the commission are landlords and the other just follow suit to them. We as contractors have gone to the city and asked for harder enforcement. But nothing. The Trades Board has made recommendations and yet the commission has a deaf ear.

So the question is what happens to you if you work unlicensed or don't pull permits?

I am trying to gather some info to help support our code officials.

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Old 03-07-2012, 07:48 PM   #2
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Here it's a five hundred dollar fine and 90 days if you don't pull permits.

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Old 03-07-2012, 07:55 PM   #3
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If you go into a city and preform work and you are not licensed in the city you or your company does the work what happens?

Here in KS it is pretty ignorant. Smaller cities don't have code or code official.

I work in three larger cities which require licencing and inspections. Two of the larger cities if you are caught will ticket you and even haul your butt to jail. The third city code officials don't have the city commission behind them for enforcement. Two of the member of the commission are landlords and the other just follow suit to them. We as contractors have gone to the city and asked for harder enforcement. But nothing. The Trades Board has made recommendations and yet the commission has a deaf ear.

So the question is what happens to you if you work unlicensed or don't pull permits?

I am trying to gather some info to help support our code officials.
here in pittsburgh when you were caught doing work without permits or unlicensed you were fined 2000.00 dollars..not sure if that has changed...and again they could make you open up the job for inspection..when I worked at king of prussia mall in philly some yrs ago..I just went to city an requested requirements on plumbing inspections ..THEY WERE GREAT FROM THAT POINT ON..your topic has fallen on deaf ears in washington forever...If i had to comment on this I would tell contractors to seek out city officials in a professional manner even if not licensed letting them know you have nothing to hide and you want your work inspected... you'll be suprised at the results...ben
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:05 PM   #4
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I have a great relationship with the city inspectors. And that's the key. They know that I'm not trying to hide anything.

I am not ashamed of my work and a second set of eyes sometimes catches something that I overlooked. We are human and once a contractor gets it through their mind what code and code enforcement is about it really isn't that big of a deal.

Thanks for the imput Ben
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I have a great relationship with the city inspectors. And that's the key. They know that I'm not trying to hide anything.

I am not ashamed of my work and a second set of eyes sometimes catches something that I overlooked. We are human and once a contractor gets it through their mind what code and code enforcement is about it really isn't that big of a deal.

Thanks for the imput Ben
right as long as the job is complete in a manner that is equal or better to specs..licensed or not...
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:59 PM   #6
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Bah!

Inspectors can pound sand and eat prunes.....
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Fines, fines, and more fines.
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Don't be so hard on inspectors they are needed for all the idiots out there doing inferior work that could hurt someone. There is good and bad in everything. Not all inspectors are
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Inspectors and border guards are both necessary but are often bureaucratically adversarial for little purpose beyond petty mindedness. They are obviously a mixed bunch like any other group of humans but that little bit of inevitable pettiness (or incompetence) that everyone eventually runs into with them really gets under my skin.
If you want to see a thread run on forever, just ask any pro for his favourite inspector story.

Mine was the retired inspector who was brought back to fill in during holidays and rejected our job for having attached a thermostat to a furnace duct. Who mistakes a thermostat for a humidistat?

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I don't know, did the mechanic(helper) install a thermostat where a humidistat should have been? We don't know maybe the inspector was right depending upon who did the job.
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Nope! Even the newbie on the job just scratched his head.
It cost me an hour of city hall ranting in person until they sent out another inspecter with the threat of double billing who just looked, smiled and left. Approved!

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Back in the early 90s there was a guy in our town named Naming not allowed. Thought he was God's gift to the inspection world.

After passing the furnace Uncle put in he could not get the the front panel on.

So he left it off and wrote up Uncle Clover for a "Inoperative humidifier".

Only problem Uncle did not install a humidifier on this job.

Uncle went out to see WTF was going on and found the furnace front panel next to the furnace and the twenty year old Lobb WA 1 turning away happily in the reservoir.

From than on it was war!

Uncle even waited for the inspector in the municipal parking lot after getting thrown out of the building dept.

The wuss never showed and had the police escort Uncle to his truck. Poor Uncle!

I don't have any personal stories my self ...but I guess one will eventually come.


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