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guidetofun 11-10-2008 09:41 PM

Please help me jump in this Field!!
 
I am certified for up to HVAC Level two part 1. What is the best thing to do now to jump in the field? SHould I go ahead and get an apprenticeship? OR what? SHould I get certified for more levels or what? Im all ears. Please tell me what you think!! Thank you!!

beenthere 11-10-2008 11:19 PM

Apply at places.

You'll be either a helper, or an apprentice.

The certs are nice. But you need field time.

guidetofun 11-10-2008 11:59 PM

Thanks. I have no field time. So I can be a helper and start off with about how much think? Also Whats the basic things to know that would impress when im first starting off?

hvaclover 11-11-2008 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by guidetofun (Post 183091)
Thanks. I have no field time. So I can be a helper and start off with about how much think? Also Whats the basic things to know that would impress when im first starting off?

i think you should hit the pro forums and ask that question. A good place to go would be Hvac-Talk.com.

That is an all pro forum where you'll find a lot of people from all over the country willing to give you a hand.

But come with a thick skin. New guys are hounded something terrible.

beenthere 11-11-2008 07:32 AM

Wages vary too much by the area, to make a good guess on that.

Knowing what tool is what, and what its used for helps.
Paying attention is always a good impression.

guidetofun 11-11-2008 08:59 AM

Aight good stuff. Thank you so much guys. Im headed to HVAC-Talk.com now.

Yoyizit 11-11-2008 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hvaclover (Post 183097)
But come with a thick skin. New guys are hounded something terrible.

Yea, verily. . .

And they seem to like guns on that forum.

hvaclover 11-11-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoyizit (Post 183202)
Yea, verily. . .

And they seem to like guns on that forum.



KA-CLICK....YOU GOT A PROB WITH GUNS? GO AHEAD MAKE MY LIFETIME.:laughing:
yes they do like their weapons. Most of the senior members (myself included) are former
military
and are avid hunters.


Yoyizit 11-11-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hvaclover (Post 183236)
KA-CLICK....YOU GOT A PROB WITH GUNS? GO AHEAD MAKE MY LIFETIME.:laughing:



yes they do like their weapons. Most of the senior members (myself included) are former
military


and are avid hunters.


USAF for me, I was in San Antonio the whole time.
I didn't much like rattlesnakes, amadillos and scorpions, but they were preferable to having bullets pass by me at mach 3.

Somebody's tax dollars paid for some of my schooling (GI Bill) and so, some of the scientific mumbo jumbo I spout on this forum.

Your tax dollars at work!


Lemme' 'splain the Game Theory approach to guns.

Nobody has a gun and sometimes people fight and they get bloody noses.
One person gets a gun and then everybody must have one.
Now when there's a fight there are funerals.

Relative to each other, it is the same as when no one had guns, but now, as a group, they are all worse off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_trap


Is hunting and HVAC a coincidence or does one somehow cause the other?
It was kind of a surprise to me.

But, between you and me, I heard that the stopping power of a 10 ga. slug is unparalleled.

:whistling2:

hvaclover 11-11-2008 02:02 PM

Some guys guys like to collect weapons. Nothing wrong with that.

Al the deaths by guns you see are mostly gang related or are from unregistered guns in the hands of people with no self control.

Personally I own no weapons other than a trophy AK I took off a Gook who nailed me with the bayonet in an ambush in NAM.

But I don't begrudge anybody who owns one.

tk03 11-11-2008 05:26 PM

Being an ex-service manager of 28 techs I will give you a short list.
1. Not all learning will come from books, most will come from older techs teaching you. Some will teach you right and some will teach you wrong. You must be wise enough to know the difference. Read, Read, Read. attend classes.
2. Stay away from bad habbits from the start. Practice good habbits and they will follow you through a challeging career. The older tech that are looked up to usually have better skill and work ethics. The older tech's that are not looked up as much usually are not up to as much for a reason.
3. Be at least 10 minutes early everyday.
4. Give plenty of time if you need time off. They keep schedules where people take off work to meet the tech.
5. Listen.....if you are talking all the time you cannot listen
6. Do what you are asked when you are asked to do it. If you are asked to work overtime the answer is mostly yes. Remember no is rememberewd a lot more then yes when the need people to work.

hvaclover 11-11-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tk03 (Post 183441)
Being an ex-service manager of 28 techs I will give you a short list.
1. Not all learning will come from books, most will come from older techs teaching you. Some will teach you right and some will teach you wrong. You must be wise enough to know the difference. Read, Read, Read. attend classes.
2. Stay away from bad habbits from the start. Practice good habbits and they will follow you through a challeging career. The older tech that are looked up to usually have better skill and work ethics. The older tech's that are not looked up as much usually are not up to as much for a reason.
3. Be at least 10 minutes early everyday.
4. Give plenty of time if you need time off. They keep schedules where people take off work to meet the tech.
5. Listen.....if you are talking all the time you cannot listen
6. Do what you are asked when you are asked to do it. If you are asked to work overtime the answer is mostly yes. Remember no is rememberewd a lot more then yes when the need people to work.

And don't smoke that doobie on company time. Your boss will think you're a Bogart.:whistling2:

guidetofun 11-11-2008 11:25 PM

Tk03 Thats Some Good Stuff Thanks Alot!!!

guidetofun 11-11-2008 11:26 PM

Any other tips would be helpful please. What really looks good on an application in order to get hired for an apprentice?

kennzz05 11-12-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by guidetofun (Post 183660)
Any other tips would be helpful please. What really looks good on an application in order to get hired for an apprentice?

anyone can put anything on an app its more about how you carry yourself in an interview first impressions are important be polite look people in the eyes, dress neatly, speak clearly and slowly alot of kids seem to speak like their texting:) and answer their questions dont ask too many your self.
ask aboutwhat you can expect for starting pay, how often reviews are done (raises) and benifits oh and weekends you are in a field where weekend are almost mandatory so expect it.unless you can get in a union which if you can go for it or the goverment, best money and bennies


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