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Old 07-23-2012, 12:35 AM   #1
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Part 2 - How much of a fool you think I have been made.


Hello,

Newbie here. All my HVAC knowledge is recently acquired. The issue I need help with from you guys/professionals comes in two parts. This is Part 2. I will come back to Part 1 later.

In late 2008, When the local HVAC Pro replaced my furnace including the evaporator coil, they left the fully functional AC lines disconnected. Because of lack of funds and tough times, since then we lived without AC.
Last week I had another HVAC Pro come look at what need to be done and give me an estimate. The lowest budget solution price was $1223.00. I always think of getting couple of estimates, but end up taking the first one.

This guy brazed the loose AC line to the evaporator coil, recovered the freon in the system and then recharged it with R-22 freon. Since the compressor was not used for an extended time period he cleaned the condenser coil with some solution and used water jet to clean it. All this took about 2 to 3 hours and the system was up and running smoothly (YORK Unit). It was/is less noisy as it used to be. The system has been working fine since then.

The Pro said that the unit took more than 6 pounds of freon. Close to 8 pounds he said and that R-22 costs a lot per pound and that I got a good deal. The cost also includes a cooling contract, which I saw when I got the bill by email. You see, I missed it because the last two options in the estimate were priced the same at $1223.00. One was with maintenance and the last without.

Look forward to hearing your comments, thoughts and suggestions.

- Guy who can't say no.

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I'm not sure what you're asking. Without looking at the job we can't really give you any pricing guidelines (and that's not really the role of this forum, I believe).

If you're concerned about the contract, just call them and say you don't want it. You have the right to refuse any contract, and there is no honest, ethical businessman out there who would try to force you to remain in a maintenance agreement if you don't want the service.

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estimated distance between the condenser and the air handler for that total freon charge...sounds he was pushing freon on you
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If condenser was dry depending on size might not be far off.
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sounds he was pushing freon on you
On what basis? You have no idea of the unit, coil or lineset. You have no idea what was done on the system, or the scope of the job.

So what do you base your claim on?
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On what basis? You have no idea of the unit, coil or lineset. You have no idea what was done on the system, or the scope of the job.

So what do you base your claim on?

I did say depending on size and if unit was dry. I used rule of thumb 2.5 lbs per ton. 3 ton x 2.5 = 7.5 lbs. I would never fill without using gauges and scale or reading the data plate. Only said it might not be far off.

A picture of the data plate and length of lineset would have allowed for a more accurate answer.
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I did say depending on size and if unit was dry. I used rule of thumb 2.5 lbs per ton. 3 ton x 2.5 = 7.5 lbs. I would never fill without using gauges and scale or reading the data plate. Only said it might not be far off.

A picture of the data plate and length of lineset would have allowed for a more accurate answer.

He was asking biggles that question.
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He was asking biggles that question.
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