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Old 03-25-2011, 12:06 AM   #16
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All I'm able to do is turn off the gas supply to the furnace & try to get the customer to sign a form stating why I turned it off & that the furnace shouldn't be used until repaired/replaced. If they choose to relight & continue to use . There's nothing more I can do. It's their furnace & property. Gas co. here isn't allowed to turn their gas off as, they may have other gas appliances that are in use. Only time gas co. will turn gas off is if the bill isn't paid

Actually this sounds more of the normal but there have been a few occasions where we've called the city as the CO leak was present and the HO refused to keep the furnace turned off so the city came out and turned off their gas. It is a liability issue, ours.

If you don't want to know you have a leak and that your home is unsafe due to it than why call me out for an annual heat check up to begin with?

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Old 03-25-2011, 01:20 AM   #17
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Well, I have informed him of the dangers and exactly how dangerous CO is and he gave me the ol' "well its been runnin for years like this" in a "I wasn't born yesterday" type of way. Hey, all I can do is shut off the furnace and inform, the rest is up to him. I have no legal obligation past shutting off the gas line and switch for the unit and having him sign the invoice saying he was informed that the unit or heat exchanger needs to be replaced and the furnace is not safe to operate. If he wants to sh!t all over my expertise and run the furnace then he can go right ahead, I'm not wiping his ass any more than that.
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Oh and by the way he has money, lots.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:52 AM   #19
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Hey Thanks Doc,couldnt sleep so figured I check out some posts.Its a shame you run into situations like that to have to shut the heat down but I couldnt live with myself knowing I couldve prevented a fatality.The laws are funny sometime but Ive heard of people being charged with negligence for allowing systems to stay on line when they were a definite health hazard!
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Theres a job going on and its funny because they ask for pros to not only do the job but make sure its done right ! The job has very limited access and theres not a lot of options with equipment as well.Due to how everything is set up makes it even a little tougher.Its upgrading split systems to 410a due to hail damage.This is a total upgrade changeout for both O.D.and indoor units ranging from 11/2 to 21/2 ton units with elec strips. The indoor is a complete tearout of the soffit and reframing to accomodate the units.When it comes down to it theres 2 2x4s thats used to anchor the air handler and 8ft long and 221/2 wide..These are plenty secure enough to handle this application with no problems.They have some young guy in there saying a lot of trash to the owners and its coming back to me.Hes mad because his family didnt get the job.Now after we got 4 done they want me to basically overkill on remaining 6 units.I know that its adequate support hell I can do pull ups on the thing and no problems at all.Do you think I ought to pacify the people just because or suggest the young little whippersnapper not get invovled or what? its not a lot of cost involved but a little bit of extra time as well tho that wasnt put into the bid.Anyway I like happy people but dont like to work for free either.

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Is That right? wow thats crazy,the people will hold you accountable for what...saving there life! Ive never heard of that before.Ive been taught that if theres a code violation or a problem that can be life or death is to disable it.You are the last person there and if something did happen you could be held liable for negligence for not shutting it down!WOW I guess theres different laws everywhere. Well what about your consience?
Allow me to elaborate..we shut off the furnace when we find CO. We document the shut off.

The customer turns the furnace back on. If we tell the city the HO is operating the furnace they tell us it's the customer's funeral.

The only exception is if the person is noticeably mentally disturbed or very old with senility.

Not my rules.
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1.) I agreee and applaude 1mastertech.

2.) bull hell.

3.) Mine will. We disable systems, call the city and they will come and confirm our findings of CO and turn off the gas to the home, quickly. If the homeowner/tenant doesn't like it, too bad. At least they are alive to complain.
Look dude keep civil will you?

I didn't give you any grief and would appreciate the same.

The city will not get involved here on a CO shut off and there is nothing going to change that.
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Funny Story: So I moved into this, not-so-great neighborhood, set my thermostat timer to go off just before waking up. Next morning, I hear this BANG, and again BANG noise and I go, damn I knew this neighborhood was kinda %&#%^. Not until later did I find out the wall furnace is the one doing the banging.

Not so Funny Story: So today finally I had someone in to look at the thing and the exchanger is cracked! So I was breathing CO for 5 months and is taking me 10 minutes to post this. Kidding. Damn heater.

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