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Old 01-24-2010, 10:29 AM   #16
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The boiler temp is readubg 70 degrees....it should be between 140-180. Doesn't this mean the boiler isn't even firing?

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Old 01-24-2010, 10:44 AM   #17
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Yep. Can't heat your house with 70 deg H20 can you? LOL.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:07 AM   #18
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So that would rule out the thermostat being the issue right, if the boiler itself isn't keeping temperature?

I just got a call, the service tech guy will be here in an hour (noon). He had me try the two reset buttons, the one I tried earlier (did nothing) and the one on the burner motor (also did nothing). I'll probably just wait for him to take care of it...hopefully this isn't a major fix.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:22 AM   #19
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Not necessarily, the thermostat is just a switch and it could be defective and not making contact.

That's why Yuri suggested you just jump it out to rule that out.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:23 AM   #20
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Oh, you mean the thermostat on the boiler itself. I was thinking the thermostat in the living room.
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The living room tstat has to start the burner on some boilers. On others it turns on the circulating pump and the internal tstat in the boiler for maintaining the temp fires up the burner. Try jump the living room tstat after disconnecting the wires from it or you may burn out the heat anticipator.
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:23 PM   #22
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So it turns out it was the honeywell control box...Honeywell R81846....they charged me $342. I know it was a weekend call, and plumbers are expensive, but is that so much that I should consider using someone else next time? I see online I can buy that control box for less than $60, and he only took about 20 minutes diagnosing and installing it.
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Thats because he was a Pro and knew what he was doing. We don't do pricing DEBATES here. My company would have charged you that and more. Sounds reasonable to me.
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Ok, just curious if it was in line or not. I am happy to have heat again

Thanks for all the advice to all.

One quick question...he told me I have a "monoflow" system. How hard would this be to add a second zone? I can easily get the send/return pipes to the boiler. Is it an easy job to tie this new zone into the boiler? Thankss.
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Post a bunch of pics of the boiler and piping and Beenthere the guru and others will help you.
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cool - i will do that in a new thread at some point. Thanks guys.
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How long was the tech there diagnosing and at what rate? $340 is pretty high! Is this a tech from a large oil company or an independent?
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He was here total less than an hour. He's from a local oil company.

The reason I asked about the price here was to know whether to call the company and ask for some money off the bill or threaten to use someone else for my service.
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I understand your question. They will charge you a full hour of after hour service and this will include travel time from the techs house to yours and back home! Then the price of the part so... dont jump ship on them yet! Did you get a bill showing what labor and materials etc was? What was labor and materials charge?
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It says:

Diagnostic fee: 119.95
Proposal 1: $210.48
Total : 330.43

He said the "Diagnostic fee" is only $79 if it's M-F. It also lists the one part he replaced, with no cost next to it:

Honeywell R8184g 4009 - which is the honeywell control box. I was confused by it too, and probably should have questioned it more, since it does not itemize each thing. He also told me I am not paying by the hour, just by what he does.

I'll call them tomorrow and get a better explanation.

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