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Old 07-12-2008, 06:13 PM   #16
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Getting kinda testy arent we Geo.
Yeah sorry , just pictured the guy acting all snid and typing "yeah right" and went off on a tirade

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Old 07-12-2008, 07:45 PM   #17
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Geez, Geo fan, you sure know how to embarass yourself, don't you? I'd say you may be better at that than you are at being just a "lowly" HVAC technician, but I have no idea about your HVAC knowledge, don't really care, so I won't embarass myself by saying about that. But you did make a fool of yourself and your credibility - especially when you can't make a point without debasing someone else.

But I guess that's just the way you are; that's the way you "sign your name" so to speak and I'll bet that's how you work sometimes. Half-cocked, temperamental, judgemental, making no sense, gullible, irrational. I'd add stupid to that but I can forgive stupidity because some people just don't no better than to find out for real and have a hard time making up their own minds not listening to a snake-oil salesman. Ignorant you can be for a while but eventually you'll find out.

By the same token you have no idea about my credentials. It may well be that I have more credentials in my field than you do in yours. Wanna bet here? ...You don't know - but obviously not knowing doesn't stop you from mouthing off and making a fool of yourself.

As for the ozone stuff, your "Guardian" machine - or whatever name they affix to it - may not be an 'ozone generator' in the true sense of ozone generators that we use. The fact is that it does generate ozone, albeit in small amounts so that it flies below the radar of the EPA who sanction such machines. But what I hadn't seen is that they marry all this mumbo-jumbo about hydroxyl radicals, hydroperoxides and hydrogen peroxide with a UV light - then put it in a fancy box so that idiots like you think they're buying into the latest technology, sanctioned of course in the mecca of all air purifier nonsense: China.

I did like their claim that their machine produces "hydroxyl radicals" - let me laugh. Hey, Geo fan, do you know what a "hydroxyl radical" is? Guess not because even spelling basic English is a challenge for you so getting your point across must be a real feat, to say nothing of your credibility. But I know hydroxy radicals, others too. Oh and get this: they mention a magic "plasma" that floats out like little pacmen devouring viruses, microbes and anything it sees!!! What a load of crap, you have no idea, Geo...

Tell you what: stick to your little fantasy world, stay away from the real one and if you care to come back to a place like this forum, be prepared to learn from it - because you will. And get a spell checker or something because you sound like a teenager. Ah geez, maybe you are...
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:21 PM   #18
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One fact one fact
I didnt see one fact one credential
you obviously went to there web site and I admit some of my knowledge is based on the education the offer. but that was validated to me by Very educated customers doing research and then purchasing the equipment. I pride myself on staying on the cutting edge of all new technology and constantly am trying to educate myself if you can offer any knowledge please impart it . My spelling and punctuation I will apologize for because its hard to read but my intelligence should not be drawn into question . Trust me you don't want to compare iq's. So in closing its not my product I just believe in it you don't have to , but if you want to start calling names then PROVE IT. I know technology like running water and electricity scares you kanooks but you may want to back up your point ,because just calling me an idiot is VERY TRANSPAIRANT

hydroxyl-radical- highly reactive short lived compound produced in the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide referred to as the DETERGINT of the troposphere because it reacts to pollutants most commonly voc ( volatile organic compounds) with water as a byproduct
OH+RH= H2O + R
Yes I had to look it up but after that I don't see your point if anything it validates everything I said and discredits you further

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Old 07-13-2008, 07:44 AM   #19
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So let me get this straight, Wonderboy; your "intelligence" comes from a "Very Satisfied" customer who bought one of these idiot-machines, who used it and then told you all this BS about how well it works? Is that your incontrovertable "proof" that you give us?

Get with it, geo. And don't try to impress us with a pasted definition of hydroxy radicals. What is not mentioned there is that hydroxyl radicals have a very, very short lifespan something like 3 milliseconds before they die off. I'm making this simple so a dweeb like you can understand it. So, sure, say "the machine produces hyroxyl radicals and these kills off bacteria!!!" Scream it from the roof-tops...it won't change the fact that hydroxyl radicals aren't there long enough to do anything at all.

But wait! - they told you that... SO IT MUST BE TRUE. Gosh you are so gulllible geo, that I am truly sad for you. Look I don't mind looking at new technology, we all should but one thing you should always do: never take sometone elses word for it, go out and get confirmation of the facts from reputable people before you make up your own mind, and then blast us with their drivel. That's intelligence...intelligence isn't knowing what Britney Spear's birthstone is contrary to common belief. It's knowing what makes sense and what doesn't. How do you get to find that out anyway? listen to people like there are on this and other forums for example, who have way more training and technical knowledge than you, question them, then come to your own conclusion. Oh yeah and be ready to defend that opinion when someone blasts you about it. If you and your theory make sense then no matter who blasts you, your theory will hold up.

Don't have any more time to waste on you, geo. Anyone who thinks that Canadians are afraid of electricity (when most of our electricity already comes from renewable sources) has probably never even left his hometown. Another boo-boo, geo.

What country are you from that allowed you access to the internet? Sure not from this world.

PS: my 'credentials' are in 3 glass frames behind my desk, hanging on the wall, have a red seal on them and were issued by McGill University. What are yours, apart from the "L" on your forehead?
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:12 AM   #20
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Alrighty then... re. the original post...

Divorce the wife...sell the house...invest in Pepto...move to Mexico!!!
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Hydroxy-radicals do have a very short lifetime and the reason be is they die when the react to pollutants , no pollutants no reaction long life, lots of pollutants like on earth very short life. They are not alive the compound only Dies hypothicly when a reaction takes place most commonly triggered by exposure to VOC's

S2 unlimited journey mens licence and D2 limited Solar heating licence . I have admitted I'm not all Knowing but I do Know Canada is the leader in the modern world in deforestation of old growth forest, You have less wind mills then California alone. I question that statement unless you consider wood furnaces a renewable energy source, While that is true its the single largest way to pollute per btu. And yes I have visited your fine country on a very nice fishing trip . the cabin had a generator and an outhouse so the joke was based on that nothing personal just had to shower with a bucket for a week ( it kinda sticks with you )Congrats on the college I never heard of My sister has her master's from NYU and my brother his bachelors from Stamford. And guess what when it comes to real problems in the real world its people like me that get S**t done

The only thing that separates us from the third world is are army's of plumber's ,electricians, and hvac trained pro's
The rest of you really wouldn't be missed that much

Again I beleive holding aside some of the quick jabs ( done only in response by the way) this back and fourth has ben educational ( I have done most of that but you have made me think, not change my mind but at least think) I beleive I have backed up my point and In all honesty would like to continue because if you are as smart as you act then there is a chance you are right ( I doubt it) and I beleive I have backed up my points with facts and I dont beleive you have. probubly cause you got so mad I do have that effect. Please prove to me using science , quotes of Industry experts , whatever . Something besides calling me an idiot , or jumping all over me for being blue collar ( on this site people like me are the experts)
I'm 32 by the way not that it matters live in Torr. CT and have 2 years of post. high tech. plus 11 years in the trade that includes indoor air quility . just thought I would share since you seem so courius

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