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Old 03-28-2012, 02:06 PM   #1
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Hi - I recently remodeled my bathroom in my house which was built in the 1940's and now I have a small problem with the heating duct sticking out of the wall too far. All together it now sticks out 2 1/2". I've attached some pics for you to see. There used to be tile sticking out an inch or so on top of the old sheet rock which I got rid of so now I have an extra inch of duct sticking out of the wall and there is a gap between the old register and the new sheetrock. To make matters worse, the duct is wrapped in what I believe is that asbestos wrap both inside and out (you can see it in the pic). I know that I should get an asbestos abatement specialist to remove it someday but don't have the money right now. Ideally I would like it cut flush with the wall so I could just put a nice new vent over it and call it a day, but I know I should not disturb asbestos at all. Another thought is to order a custom baseboard register, but it sticks out 2 12" and I thought that was. Right now, I just put some furring strips around it to cover the gap but that is just a temporary solution and I am looking for a permanent solution. Any advice is greatly appreciated because I need to be done with this project so I can move to the next one. Thanks in advance!!!

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Old 03-28-2012, 04:19 PM   #2
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First, caulk around the duct and the wall to seal the gap. let it cure over night. then make the asbestos wet, and remove it while it is wet.

Then cut the duct so that its 1/2" further from the wall. Then notch the corners and bend the 1/2" flush to the wall. install new grille/register.

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If your ductwork has asbestos in the inside, you've got a major problem. Get it tested and if it really is asbestos on the inside, you need to get it professionally mitigated.
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Do like I did, and cut in half, then basically shrink it to fit. problem is, you will have to cut into the gypsum board, if you just can not pull it out at this point. Easier to fix something like this when the walls are open, then after the fact.

Now of course, if you do not want to cut it out of the wall, to cut in half to "shrink", you can cut the corners to bend the sheet metal up and out, so that you can cut it down to fit against the wall.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I believe that is asbestos there and it is worrying the hell out of me. You can see what I am talking about on the inside bottom of the vent. It's curling and warping from the heat and moisture. I think I will have it tested as sktn77a mentioned. Any idea where I can get that done and how to remove it for a sample. Thanks again for the help! Also, what about temporarily covering it with one of those substances you can paint over it? Is that safe enough to put on the interior of the vent since it will be getting hot?

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Just wet it down and remove. It is too little to do any harm, but leaving it their, continues to keep the particle airborne, as the paper continues to deteriate over time, from aging.
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Thanks gregzoll. Is there anything I should coat it with after I wet it down and remove it so that any left over residue will be trapped like that stuff you can paint over asbestos?

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Wet it down with a mixture of a couple drops of dish soap in a spray bottle, then fill 3/4 the way with warm water, and shake to mix, once you put the top on. Then spray the paper down really good, pull off into a plastic bag. Tie the bag, then place into another bag and spray down that bag with the water dish soap mix, then place into trash can. Make sure you wash your hands afterwards with soap and water, and then you will be okay.

The last two vents that I had to pull, when I was redoing my bath, I just pulled the duct work down, and pulled off the paper. Talk about getting yelled at by the wife. I just told her not to worry, due to it is not going to hurt anyone, due to you have to be breathing it in for a very long time to have it do any harm.

I have breathed in more harmful chemicals and a lot of dust in my 45 years, due to the Navy, and being around farm fields next to our house out in the country. I am healthy, but can tell from having bad sinuses that it has started to have some effect on me, but figure that as long as I am still able to run a 5k and ride 50 miles on a bike, and my yearly physical still shows I am am healthy, I am not worried.
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Ok. Thanks Greg. Also, what type of caulk do you guys recommend around the perimeter of the vent like beenthere suggested? I just ask because it gets hot around the vent and so I don't know if the silicone melts with the heat and moisture combo. When put the register over it and the heat blows on it, it gets pretty hot.

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Painters caulk will work fine.
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Rob, the vent does not get hot enough to melt anything.
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I dont think your looking at asbestos but I would have it tested to make sure. If it is asbestos, get an entire new duct system. Whats more important, cost of new duct system or your family's health.
I find it hard to beleive that you are even considering keeping it.
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If your ductwork has asbestos in the inside, you've got a major problem. Get it tested and if it really is asbestos on the inside, you need to get it professionally mitigated.
I would be more concerned with the above statement then removing the small visible pieces in the picture. This can't possibly be asbestos inside your ducts. If so you are blowing it all over the house.
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I hope you are right Patrick but I won't hold want to hold my breath. I wouldn't be surprised if it was asbestos though because the house was built in the 1940's. I do want to replace the duct work as well as my furnace as soon as I can come up with the funds. Any ideas where I can take a sample to get tested? I'm pretty sure whatever that is, is not just in the interior of that one register, but all of them throughout the house. Thanks for the advice and tips everyone. I really appreciate it.

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If your home was built in the 40's, and no one has ever done anything with the duct work or furnace, guaranteed that there is Asbestos in that wrap. How do you get rid of it? You don a proper face mask if you wish, some gloves, and follow the procedures that I stated before.

If you take it to be tested, you will find that it is asbestos. I took ours down with no worry, due to I knew that the little time that I was exposed to it while working on removing it, would do no harm to me. Leaving it, it would have stayed airborne for that product that was inside the duct work, where the vent is.

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