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wxia 02-12-2012 01:58 PM

My Carrier high efficiency furnace
 
My Carrier high efficiency furnace (Model 58SXC120-LG) has no LED light to indicate any errors. It occassionally fails to restar after running for awhile. I can mannually restart it by turning the power off and then back on. The thermostat is working fine (new batteries). Anyone can give me a clue on how to diagnose this problem?

how 02-12-2012 02:06 PM

HeyWxia
Start up a new thread for your furnace as it will confuse everyone if you don't.

how 02-12-2012 03:03 PM

Hey wxia
Are you saying that your diagnostic led doesn't blink a code after a lockout or that you can find the led light? If you can't find it, look for it on an electronic board. If the board is only accessed behind a panel that has a door switch, then tape that door switch shut so you can access that led light code the next time the furnace locks out without cutting off it's power.
In the mean time, un screwing & cleaning the flame sensor with steel wool it the easiest and most possible common fix to first try.

Houston204 02-12-2012 06:01 PM

Carrier didn't have the LED in that mid 1980's furnace.

The edge pin connector labeled 10B1 can corrode inside and turn green (instead of the normal silver). The pc board connection to it can as well.

I've had a tech clean the inside with some flattened steel wool, then blow it out with compressed nitrogen and get one back on line before.

Any steel wool left behind could cause problems.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s.../58SXcolor.jpg

Tator1076 02-12-2012 06:37 PM

So you have nothing when it comes back on?

Tator1076 02-12-2012 06:38 PM

Is the fan running, is it trying to spark? Is this l.p or N.G

wxia 02-12-2012 06:44 PM

Once I get it restarted, it often runs normal for days before it does it again. I will do what is suggested by Houston 204 and let you know if that works.

Tator1076 02-12-2012 06:56 PM

Sure the lockout module is maybe going out. It lock out the unit for 3 hours before restart

Tator1076 02-12-2012 06:57 PM

Is that for l.p. for vapor lock out on low tank or low tank pressure?

wxia 02-12-2012 07:05 PM

I do not know what is "l.p. for vapor lock out on low tank or low tank pressure?" Every time when I notice the furnace was not running and the temperature did not rise to the thermostat setting, I restart the furnace by switch the power off and on. It started working right away and often continues for days.

Tator1076 02-12-2012 07:15 PM

L.p. is propane gas. You on l.p.?

wxia 02-12-2012 07:20 PM

No, mine uses natural gas.

wxia 02-12-2012 08:04 PM

I have cleaned the flame sensor and checked all connectors on the board that I can see. The connectors all look fine and relatively tight. I do not have much confidence if these are related to the problem. In the next few days I will see if the problem goes away.

dosy777 02-13-2012 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wxia (Post 851955)
I have cleaned the flame sensor and checked all connectors on the board that I can see. The connectors all look fine and relatively tight. I do not have much confidence if these are related to the problem. In the next few days I will see if the problem goes away.

3 common problems with those units, 1 st off the secondary heat exchangers are failing at a pretty high rate, check that FIRST before you sink any money into it. The other two things are the 3 wire pilot, and the gas valve. BTW unless it is one of the very last sx's that was made it may not have a true flame sensor, the last year that carrier made them was the first year that they started using a flame sensor and a ignitor.......would it be possible for you to post a picture of your furnace with the doors off?

hvac5646 02-13-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wxia (Post 851955)
I have cleaned the flame sensor and checked all connectors on the board that I can see. The connectors all look fine and relatively tight. I do not have much confidence if these are related to the problem. In the next few days I will see if the problem goes away.

no sensor on that model. had a bi-metal pilot.


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