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eelegier 07-28-2012 10:36 AM

Most reliable central ac units
 
I am replacing my York ac units.A 4 & 2 1/2 ton gas units.Which is best and most reliable Amana,Goodman,Bryant or Rheem and why? Hot in New Orleans,Pleaser help!

scottmcd9999 07-28-2012 11:08 AM

The single most important factor in "reliable" air conditioning systems is proper installation. Even the best unit will not be reliable if it's not properly installed and maintained. Do your homework to find a good contractor - ask friends and neighbors for recommendations, check out the BBB and such. Make sure they're licensed/bonded/insured (i.e. don't deal with the "magnetic sign brigade"). Get several estimates, and compare them to be sure that you're getting the same thing.

With that said, IMO the best unit out there is Trane, followed by Carrier. Bryant is a Carrier knock-off but doesn't have the same quality IMO. Rheem isn't a bad unit, but I've had too many leak issues with Rheem/Ruud to recommend them.

Amana is owned by Goodman. I've seen faaar too much trouble with Goodman to trust the unit. I'm not sure how Amana plays in with Goodman, but given that they're owned by the same company (and that company has a reputation for cheapening everything they touch) I'd stay far away from that one as well.

Again, these are my opinions. Others will certainly disagree with me, and that's perfectly fine.

bobelectric 07-28-2012 11:11 AM

Ducane is lennox, and I 'm pleased with's it's performance this hot summer.

eelegier 07-28-2012 11:28 AM

Would you consider the Amana because of its lifetime replacement warranty on the compressor, condensar and heating unit.I also heard Goodman/Amana has gotten better over the years.

scottmcd9999 07-28-2012 11:49 AM

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Would you consider the Amana because of its lifetime replacement warranty on the compressor, condensar and heating unit.I also heard Goodman/Amana has gotten better over the years.
They had nowhere to go but up :)

No, I would not consider Amana, given that they're in bed with Goodman. But that's just me, and I'm sure others have had great experiences with them.

If I'm not mistaken, the lifetime warranty only applies to the Compressor and Heat Exchanger (assuming you're getting a gas furnace). The coils (condenser and evap) would carry the standard 5 year warranty that is upped to 10 years if you register online. This is also a parts only warranty - labor, freight, refrigerant, etc etc are not covered by that warranty.

Note these warranties do NOT apply to anything purchased on the 'net, so be aware of that.

scottmcd9999 07-28-2012 11:51 AM

Lennox used to make a great unit, but they have definitely gotten cheaper over the past few years. I worked on a bit of them over the past year or so, and I can't say I'm as taken with them as I used to be. Up until about 3 years ago I always included Lennox in my "list of best units", but after seeing far too many of them on breakdown calls, I had to change up.

Again, that's not to say that you can't have a great Lennox/Ducane unit, or a great Goodman unit ... just that, in my experience in the field, I would not recommend them to a friend (and that's my standard of what a "good" system would be).

hvactech126 07-28-2012 04:44 PM

Goodman owns Amana. Amana is not in bed with Goodman...

ben's plumbing 07-28-2012 06:33 PM

as was already said....installation is key to a system lasting....in 30 + yrs..i have seen the junk outlast the best ... do your homework on contractors for good installation on a decent product...

turnermech 07-28-2012 08:26 PM

consumer reports just had a article according to them Bryant was most reliable tested. I may be bias. I am a Bryant dealer

FrankL 07-28-2012 10:37 PM

Tranes are pretty good. I am not an AC guy but have had 2 of six on an office building for about 8 years and they have held up. They are correct about good installers. Also have a honest person maint service them once a year. I have had too many examples with home and office machines that after a maint service call - things happen later.

beenthere 07-29-2012 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by turnermech (Post 976440)
consumer reports just had a article according to them Bryant was most reliable tested. I may be bias. I am a Bryant dealer

CR is not a good resource for A/C and furnace reliability.

Bryant comes out of the same factory that makes Carriers, just different color and label. So there is no difference in the units. So no reason that a Bryant would be more reliable then a Carrier. But CR would have people think there is.

COLDIRON 07-29-2012 07:14 AM

I say ARCO AIR distributed by United Refrigeration makes the best unit.

Installed several and a HVAC supply house wouldn't put their name on junk equipment.

scottmcd9999 07-29-2012 07:35 AM

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a HVAC supply house wouldn't put their name on junk equipment
Supply houses sell junk every day :)

Arcoaire is made by ICP, which also makes Comfortmaker, Day & Night, Heil, KeepRite, Lincoln, and Tempstar. We haven't seen much ArcoAire around here (the United branch opened here just a few years back.

COLDIRON 07-29-2012 07:47 AM

No they don't , Why would I sell junk to thousands of customers that come in to my supply house every day and spend millions?

I am only going to sell top quality products that provide good tech knowledge and good warranty coverage to my customer base.

I have been installing United Refrigeration equipment for 45 years and never had a bad compressor or major problem.

If I did have a problem and it was a warranty issue it was taken care of ASAP.

PS: I have installed many other brands also without the same results.

evapman 07-29-2012 08:21 AM

I have sold ICP for years and very little problems with them. But as stated before, the install is a huge factor! IMO.:yes:


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