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Old 05-25-2009, 01:13 PM   #31
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Pro's get bent out of shape when HO consider buying their own equipment, companies that employ these "Marketing" tactics are high profile companies that have NATE certified technicians and huge fleets of brightly painted trucks and are the biggest ad in the yellow pages.


Someone has to pay for all the huge fleets & adds..


As far as HO buying his/her own equip.. Let them install it ... Only time I get bent out of shape is when they want me to install something they bought

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Old 05-25-2009, 02:56 PM   #32
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I just want to say thank you for all of your suggestions and help. People like you and your ethics is what gives the industry a good name...
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:17 AM   #33
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Quick update...
I called the company this morning to discuss my concerns...they of course were shocked and the Service manager will be calling me back to discuss.

I now have moisture condensation and frost and making a gurgalling(sp?) noise...the picture on the previous page shows this but now the even the black wrap has moisture on the entire pipe...
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:31 PM   #34
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Your refrigerant is leaking out.
As before, probably from the access fitting that is missing the cap.

Make sure you remind the service manager that the caps weren't missing before the PM.
Or, if they were, then the tech should have included that you needed them.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:38 PM   #35
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Probably the schraeder valve didn't seat when the arseh*le took his gauges off in a hurry to write up his "report". Talk about scam artists.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:28 PM   #36
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Do you suppose that this so-called 'service tech' might have vented a bunch of refrigerant so as to guarantee another service call? I know that sounds pretty low, but considering.....

It's certainly possible though that the schraeder valves are indeed leaking; that's why there are caps on them.

Don't run the system with low refrigerant. It'll wreck the compressor, and won't exactly do the expansion valve any good either!

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I think his "specialty" was/is selling electrical components. Probably the caps are laying on the ground nearby. I always use soap leak detector or the homemade stuff (spit) to make sure the schraeders seal. Gross but it works. Get a bad one once in awhile.
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If you're going to replace the capacitors yourself, after you turn the power off, short each one across its terminals with a screwdriver. They can hold a charge that'll knock you for a loop!

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Another quick update...

Found one of the caps on the ground...cant find the other. Used a little soapy water on the end caps and did produce a little bubble on one. Put the cap on that one.

Service manager called 2 rings...when I picked up they hung up. I immediately called back told the receptionist they just called. She put me on hold and said "Service manager is making all of his return calls now he will call you back" No call..... Tip 1 never use the fancy trucks/tv commercial guys. Tip 2 When you call a Service Mangager and they are "returning all service calls" may indicate a problem....
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i use a 'small stone' __phase shifter__ all the time!

i plug my GUITAR into it and record music! lol

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Update...
The service manager tech came out and rechecked, cleaned and showed me the readings....

Both 5 MFD blower capacitors were reading 25 and the one outside 35+3 MFD capacitor was reading 20. He actually cleaned up the dust/webs and tied up all the wires....actually looks like a professional job. He said he cleaned up the motor starters and they do not need replacing but did suggest and E-Z trap for drain protection.

Here are the pricess for the 3 capacitors
2 5mfd $424
1 35+3 MFD $258
Optional ez trap $334

Can you tell me the proper capacitors to order... or do you suggest just going with them and having them replace/guarantee them?
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After allowing a crazy amount for the cost of the capacitors, and even throwing in a "trip charge", the labor comes out to $600 per hour. I just don't get it???? I know that trucks have to be paid for and insurance has to be covered and on and on, but that is just obscene.

My son is a neurologist and he does not make near that much money, and I can guarantee you his student loan maintenance is just has heavy as any contractor overhead.

oh.......and and ez trap is like $20 wholesale. Did I miss something?? Was there a problem with your condensate drain?
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5 mfd 370 vac capacitors cost me about $20 the larger one a bit more. Not rocket science to change as the small ones have no polarity. The larger one will have the same info, mfd and voltage rating but you do need to connect it to the proper terminals. Not sure why you would pay major $$ for them to change them. What happened to the freon leak, gurgling issue? You do need to wear gloves when changing them as they can shock you. I would find the parts and if you know an electrician friend get him to install them and buy the guy some beer.
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OK, it might cost a little more to change those out.

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