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Old 01-30-2009, 09:54 PM   #31
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Don't mess around with those little humidifiers from Honeywell.

Try the EWC Autoflo steam humidifiers.
Small one, S2000 16 gallons a day.
Large one, S2020 22 gallons a day.

They are not as easy to install as the Truesteam.

But an S2020 on that first floor, and a S2000 on the second floor would take care of that place.

They cost more too.

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Old 02-07-2009, 09:54 AM   #32
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Does anyone have the experience to clean the unit? I found that soaping water seems not very efficiency to clean and remove the minerals on heating element and reservoir walls. The empty yellow light still blinking after cleaning the tank. Does anyone know where is the sensor within the tank?
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IIRC, you mentioned that you have a VisionPro IAQ. Did you install the external temp sensor ($20)? It will allow the Tstat to automatically adjust the inside humidity when the external temperature changes in order to prevent more frost from forming. It should be an easy install if the area around the furnace is near an unfinished outside wall. The leads on the sensor can be extended with 18/2 tstat wire up to 200 ft. I get my TrueSteam in a few days. I can't wait.

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I purchased the Envirazone package, 2 vision pro IAQ stats, 2 zone dampers, 8335 zone board, and an outdoor temp sensor. The system works pretty well. With my frost protection at 5 and my RH set to 40% my truesteam is able to get the job done. The first month of operation mid January to mid February cost me ~$30 according to the kill-watt device I had placed on it. To correlate this performance with your own I would have to list a lot more details which I'll PM if you are interested.
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Use a dilution of CLR to clean it.
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Does anyone have the experience to clean the unit? I found that soaping water seems not very efficiency to clean and remove the minerals on heating element and reservoir walls. The empty yellow light still blinking after cleaning the tank. Does anyone know where is the sensor within the tank?
Many years ago, I installed a Sears humidifier on my furnace plenum. The media was installed on a powered wheel which was submerged in the water reservoir. Btw, water in; none out; no waste.

At the end of the heating season, I would remove it and soak it in heated vinegar. The mineral deposits (calcium?) would sizzle and eventually disappear. I also use the hot vinegar treatment to clean my coffee maker.

Afterwards, just rinse with lot's of water.

Has anyone tried vinegar on the steamers?

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Hi my furnace man put in last week, the true steam 9 gallon,it has run steady for days woke up this morning looked at my new Honey well thermostat said 14% humidity, these guys have not tried anything yet with the true steam, but just took out the by pass 1 I had installed last year no humidity from that thing either,came out 5 times tried a variety of things with that, They were suppose to come yesterday, and look at this but it was-22 below here in Mn so had to many out calls, Please help, this has been going on for 2 years still no humidity!!
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Hi my furnace man put in last week, the true steam 9 gallon,it has run steady for days woke up this morning looked at my new Honey well thermostat said 14% humidity, these guys have not tried anything yet with the true steam, but just took out the by pass 1 I had installed last year no humidity from that thing either,came out 5 times tried a variety of things with that, They were suppose to come yesterday, and look at this but it was-22 below here in Mn so had to many out calls, Please help, this has been going on for 2 years still no humidity!!
First off, to know if the problem is with your humidifier we would need a little more info. What's the size and age of your home? What indoor temperature do you keep the thermostat at? What was the size or model of the bypass humidifier. 14% humidity when its -22 is a little low but not a lot, I think in my house (southern MN) when it was -22 out my humidity was mid 20s and I tolerated some moisture on my windows.
Without the information I mentioned above it still would be a good idea to have an energy audit done or at the very least a blower door test. My utility company said they could do a blower door test for $50. This will tell you how leaky your house is and give you suggestions for tightening it up. This will make whatever humidifier you have seem much more effective because it isn't trying to humidifier as much cold dry air leaking into your home.
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The 9GPD is good for many small houses, under 1500 sq ft,

It could be too small.
Or your water line could be restrictive.
Is it set up to humidify without a call for heat.


As above, what ize is your house.
Is it built very tight, or is its construction loose.
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My house is around 3000 or more square feet it is 5 years old with very tall ceiling in the main part 20 ft I think and 10 feet in the basement, I had 2 different companies come and they both said 9 gallon was good, the 1 company installed it. Also they spent 4 hours today on it,and it still is 16% in here. They have tried everything running out of ideas.It is the true steam honeywell hm509and the new thermostat is honeywell vision pro iaq, he even put a hole in the duct work to check if it was steaming and he said yes, and it runs indepentantly from the heat the blower runs when humidity is called for. I do not no about the construction it seems good
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My house is around 3000 or more square feet it is 5 years old with very tall ceiling in the main part 20 ft I think and 10 feet in the basement, I had 2 different companies come and they both said 9 gallon was good, the 1 company installed it. Also they spent 4 hours today on it,and it still is 16% in here. They have tried everything running out of ideas.It is the true steam honeywell hm509and the new thermostat is honeywell vision pro iaq, he even put a hole in the duct work to check if it was steaming and he said yes, and it runs indepentantly from the heat the blower runs when humidity is called for. I do not no about the construction it seems good
Ask that contractor that put it in, to show you the calculations that say a 9GPD humidifier will handle your house.

They should have put either 2-9 or 2-12 Gallon Per Day humidifiers in.

I would have gone with 2-12's. Figuring that you will lose 20% capacity after a month or 2 of operation without a manual cleaning.

They UNDER SIZED YOUR HUMIDIFIER.
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wow and both said the 12 gallon was over kill??
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If your house was really tight. Say less then .2 air changes an hour, yea, a 12 gallon would be more then you need.

My spread sheet doesn't have outdoor temps lower then -10F.

But, at -10 outdoor temp, the best you'll get out of a 9GPD is around 15% RH +or- a couple % at an indoor temp of 70. Varing with cooking and showing.

A single 12GPD, should get you 20% +or- a couple % varing with showering and cooking.

A 16 would get you to about 24%, an 18 gallon would get you to 26%
A 22 gallon would get you some where between 33 and 35%RH.
But would drop off within a month due to scale build up.
All those are at -10 outdoor temp, and 70 indoor temp.
And used a standard winter air change rate of .7 per hour.

Unless you had a blower door test done, to know its lower then that. You can't use a lower rate.

2=12's would have a longer time between manual cleaning of scale build up, then a 22GPD would.



The Truesteam doesn't come larger then 12GPD.

I have a spread sheet that list the the most common sizes of humidifiers. Its not brand specific.
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well thank you so much for this info I might pass it a long to these heating guys if i dare, you think they should have know this, thanks again for all your time and effort wish i would have gotten the bigger one, have not paid for this one yet might see what they say,thank you
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Your welcome.

A lot of HVAC companies just rely on manufacturer hype.
And don't take the time to do the calculations themselves(some don't know how).

Honeywell touts the Truesteams abilities at unrealistic low hourly air exchange rates(infiltration).
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Your welcome.

A lot of HVAC companies just rely on manufacturer hype.
And don't take the time to do the calculations themselves(some don't know how).

Honeywell touts the Truesteams abilities at unrealistic low hourly air exchange rates(infiltration).
The other problem with how honeywell rates these things is on an assumption they will run 24/7. Who wants to be using 1250 watts (HM512 Unit) 24 hours a day. Ouch!
I have one HM512 in my house and it ran 6-10 hours a day during the cold days of the this winter. With the temps rising it runs less.

One other thing to consider is if you have an HRV (air-exchanger). If you do check to make sure it isn't exchanging too much air.

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