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Old 01-08-2010, 11:51 AM   #31
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3 space heaters will keep them warm in the living dining and kitchen area during the day. And move them to the bedrooms at night.

Little colder then normal probably.

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Old 01-08-2010, 01:36 PM   #32
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Well, after $780, I now have non-poisonous heat. (as far as I know, (we'll see if the dog's dead when I get home)). We decided to replace the collector box too since it was also "rotten". He also kicked in a new burner bracket free of charge. As of right now, I'm a happy camper.
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As long as your happy that's all that matters.

Keep the economy going get a new system in the Spring.
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:36 AM   #37
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Home inspectors are not known for being able to judge accurately(sorry HI guys), when to repair HVAC appliances.

Where do you see his data for his recommendations.

Or did he get them from some book. And now includes it in his book.
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beenthere brings up a valid.

I have been called out to look at a furnace when a customer first moves into a home.

It never fails that when I find a bad furnace the new HO will say, "the home inspector didn't say that."

my first reaction would be to say "Then why did you need my opinion?".

But, I bite my tongue and ask for the inspectors report. And it will always say "Have furnace professionally inspected due to age and condition".

Some folks are just looking for some one to tell what they WANT to hear instead of what is really wrong.

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Old 01-10-2010, 01:52 PM   #39
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hvaclover, OH There you are I thought you got sucked into a big fan somewhere or some homeowner stopped over to say hello to you.

Missed your Picture. I'm a scare -d-cat.
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nothing wrong with goodman equipment,i install lots of them.goodman is an actual manufacturer of furnaces for many other companys and their lowest end 80plus furnace carries a 20 year warranty on heat exchanger.carrier/bryant has had isues with leaking coils for years.lennox is like a mopar not much interchanges between models so if you need a major part chances are its coming on a slow boat from marshaltown iowa.trane has had issues with cracked heat exchangers for years.rheem/rhuud is just a pain to work on.........
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nothing wrong with goodman equipment,i install lots of them.goodman is an actual manufacturer of furnaces for many other companys and their lowest end 80plus furnace carries a 20 year warranty on heat exchanger.carrier/bryant has had issues with leaking coils for years.lennox is like a mopar not much interchanges between models so if you need a major part chances are its coming on a slow boat from marshaltown iowa.trane has had issues with cracked heat exchangers for years.rheem/rhuud is just a pain to work on.........
Every brand you listed has had a problem.

Including Goodman. And you avoided mentioning any of Goodman's past problems I see. Along with current problems.

If your going to list problems for a few brands. List them for the brand your recommending also.
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back when they were jani-junk,junk-itrol many years ago they had problems.he labeled them as inferior equipment so i was pointing out the problems of the superior brands to him since he apperntly wasnt aware of any.ive worked on and installed many brands over the years including york/frasier johnson,ducane,lennox,trane,rhuud/rheem/weather king....... i can get any brand of equipment i want but based on my experiance with price and warranty,ease of getting parts and quality of product goodman holds its own in my book.if goodman goes back to its jan-junk ways ill be the first to spread the word but untill then ive seen no problems .http://hyetechutilities.com
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So you don't know of the recall of their gas electric package units last year huh.
Their PTACs are under recall again. The ones made between feb of 2007, to june of 2008.
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wasnt aware he was installing a package unit in his house,so that kinda throws that out the window eh?
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wasnt aware he was installing a package unit in his house,so that kinda throws that out the window eh?
Point is:

Goodman today has the same problems as any other brand.

If you want to push them, fine, no problem.
You start listing troubles other brands have, or have had. List Goodman's also.

Other wise. Your just brand bashing.

I could go into other problems with them also.
But its not worth it. Since all brands have problems.

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