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Old 03-14-2011, 05:38 PM   #1
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Hi !

I own a two stories house built in 1987, about 2100 sqft (without basement). The basement and 1st floor has duct work, so air flows very well there.

However, the 2nd floor only has low-profile electric heaters. It would be very difficult and expensive to get ducts to the 2nd floor. I live in quebec, so during winter it is quite expensive to keep the 2nd floor warm.

I was wondering if it is possible to add a floor register on the 2nd floor to draw warm air from the 1st floor. I have seen floor registers with and built-in fans on the www.

Adding a floor register with a fan sounds look a very cost-effective solution to me!

Let me know if you need more details.

Your comments are appreciated.

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Why not just put in a wall heater for the 2nd floor?
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Why not just put in a wall heater for the 2nd floor?
I am trying to avoid using electricity. I have a wood/oil furnace and burning wood is a lot cheaper than using electricity.
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Adding a floor register with a fan sounds look a very cost-effective solution to me!
It is and old-school cost effective solution. You often see this in much older homes because it was EZ.

However, keep in mind that direct ducting between floors means a direct path for NOISE. While this may not be a deal killer for your life-style.... it might be when you go to re-sell.
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It is and old-school cost effective solution. You often see this in much older homes because it was EZ.

However, keep in mind that direct ducting between floors means a direct path for NOISE. While this may not be a deal killer for your life-style.... it might be when you go to re-sell.
I agree. I wish it was easier to get a heating duct to the 2nd floor.
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I agree. I wish it was easier to get a heating duct to the 2nd floor.
I totally understand. I live in a house with solid brick walls and no room ANYWHERE for ducts.

Our third floor is currently unheated. 200 years ago (when the house was built) it was 'heated' passively.... just letting the heat go up the stairs. If I leave the door to the third floor open in the winter you can stand at the bottom of the stairs and feel the breeze of all the heat being sucked up into the third floor.

Ultimately, we will install some mini-splits up there for heat and AC. After all it's just time and money.
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I totally understand. I live in a house with solid brick walls and no room ANYWHERE for ducts.
Mine is solid brick wall as well. I want to get an heating duct in the inside wall so the air does not cool down on its way up.

The 1st floor is very "open", just one wall which supports the 2nd floor (don't think I can get the duct up there). There are other walls, but I would have to thear down everything it seems... !

It's mostly time, sheetrock is not that expensive !!

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Our third floor is currently unheated. 200 years ago (when the house was built) it was 'heated' passively.... just letting the heat go up the stairs. If I leave the door to the third floor open in the winter you can stand at the bottom of the stairs and feel the breeze of all the heat being sucked up into the third floor.

Ultimately, we will install some mini-splits up there for heat and AC. After all it's just time and money.
I have a return duct at the bottom of the stairs on the 1st floor so cold air actually comes down from the 2nd floor at my house.
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I am trying to avoid using electricity. I have a wood/oil furnace and burning wood is a lot cheaper than using electricity.
Lol im talking about a gas wall heater. They use absolutely no electricity. The flame creates enough voltage for the thermostat to operate
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Lol im talking about a gas wall heater. They use absolutely no electricity. The flame creates enough voltage for the thermostat to operate
Your post didn't mention gas so i thought you meant electric.

I know very little about gas heaters. We do not have a natural gas line in our area either. So I would have to supply gas to the heater somehow. Since it burns gas you probably need an exhaust.

If you could share a couple of links about that I would appreciate it. I could definitely learn more about gas heaters.

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Wait. What?
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Wait. What?
Gas fired gravity wall heaters use no electric. The electric they need/use, is generated by a powerpile/thermopile.
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Gas fired gravity wall heaters use no electric. The electric they need/use, is generated by a powerpile/thermopile.
Wow - I knew engineers were awesome, but I'd never heard of this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopile

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Wow - I knew engineers were awesome, but I'd never heard of this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopile

Cool.

Powerpiles/thermopiles have been around a long long time, so its a very old, and very reliable science.
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Powerpiles/thermopiles have been around a long long time, so its a very old, and very reliable science.
I knew I should have paid better attention in college physics. Thanks for the education.
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I would pay the piper and have someone get a duct up into the attic and into the rooms from there, there's always a way, perhaps through a closet? it will be the least hokey solution. This kind of thing makes me want to kick the builders teeth in, 1987 there's no excuse
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