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Old 11-11-2011, 12:10 PM   #1
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Good Deal on New Carrier 96t?


Our 10-year-old Goodman furnace just gave up the ghost. Circulating fan motor is gone, and the tech discovered several structural cracks in this and that. Estimated cost to repair at least $1500. Naturally they recommended a replacement. Considering what I've heard in here about Goodman's quality (or lack thereof), we agree and we're going for a new unit.

They're recommending a 4T Carrier Infinity 96t for right at $6k including everything. (The outside scroll compressor/condenser will stay since it's working okay.) I was a bit surprised by the price, thinking a new unit would be around $3K. Was I that far off base? Or is their price a bit high? Or is a top-liner Carrier unit worth that much. And their 24x7x10year call-us-anytime 100% warranty is a nice plus, but jeez...

I know areas affect pricing, so it's a 10YO 1,850 sqft upscale brick house in OKC...

Just wondering...

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Old 11-11-2011, 03:16 PM   #2
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What size is your current furnace(you can post model number). What size carrier are they replacing it with(you can post model number). 4 ton is just the blower size, not a furnaces BTU size.

It could be that you duct work is too small, and that is what caused the Goodman's failure. And will also cause the CaRrier to fail in about the same time period, or less.

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Old 11-11-2011, 09:43 PM   #3
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2.5k to 3K is normal for the low end Carriers in my area (full installation cost including everything), the higher end Carrier's are about 1K more, since you can get rebates on the higher end they tend to inflate the price, but depends on their overhead, get more quotes.

It will take you a long time to recover the cost of the extra 3K.
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:21 AM   #4
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Never go with only one estimate. DO NOT TALK ABOUT HAVING ANY OTHER CONTRACTORS OVER OR THEIR PRICE.

Call at least two more hvac contractors over for bids. Again, do not talk other contractor price. You can ask what each company thinks as far as equipment, single stage, variable speed, 80%, 90%, 95%, etc. Many will give you at minimum two different options of equipment and price will coincide accordingly.

Always leave yourself options.
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:35 AM   #5
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Structural cracks in this and that sound a bit vague to me. Its obviously not related to the exchanger so what are they saying is the consequence for not addressing those cracks?
How much to just replace the blown fan?
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Thanks for the replies, guys. Turns out the blower motor was shot - comes from running it 24x7 for the past ten years. Plus the relay/control board was toasted, probably from the load the dragging motor put on the system. The cracks were in the plastic plate that the inducer blower mounts on. (Apparently a common problem...) And the heat exchanger was showing some beginning corrosion. Externally, the flex-duct was fine, anyway. We have two 18" returns, one from dining/kitchen/LR area and one at the bedroom end of the hallway. Supply ducts/vents all over the place.

They ended up having to replace the attic floor under the unit - the original was done by the builder and wasn't very good. They used whatever scraps of OSB were left from the house's construction - some of them ended in mid-joist and were a bit bouncy on the edges... lol Anyway, that got fixed, too, at least in the furnace area.

I was pretty impressed with the quality - pretty heavy steel instead of thin aluminum or plastic. And the dual-stage capability is nice. It should generally run at the lower stage settings which allegedly will save gas and power. I got used to the background noise of the old unit -- I can't even hear this one running. That's a change that I'm actually having some trouble getting used to.

Our neighbor got theirs changed out last year for around $5K. And my wife's friends did theirs about the same time for about the same price, so I don't feel quite as bad as I did. I don't mind being hosed as long as I'm not being disproportionately hosed. And they bump whatever the standard Carrier warranty is to a full 10-year, 100% parts and labor, no-matter-what.
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no matter as long as they stay in business,, check who picks up warranty if they dissapear

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