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Old 02-26-2013, 10:15 AM   #16
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Yes Benny..I would also like to know if there was a specific "install" problem that you had discovered. I may be replacing my oil fired furnace with a hi eff propane...I will be having it installed by a "professional" but, would like to klnow if there is something pertaining to this that I should ask him.

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Old 02-26-2013, 06:21 PM   #17
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Update on the new heat exchanger replacement. Total cost $125.00! It was a 5 hr job (4 hrs and materials included in the warranty) but I helped alot. The tech was pretty fast and if I hadn't been there to help it could have easily taken 6-8 hrs. (I got permission from the tech to do this) Also you should expect to pay for a dignostics charge of around $100 prior to the install to tell you what you probably already know. This typically happens before the dealer will order the parts under warranty. I didn't have to pay this since they saw the pictures of the rusted out exchangers.

I am very happy with this repair. All in all- If you could get this done for $350-$550 I believe it is well worth it. It may still be a 20 yr old furnace but the blower fan is now clean, there are new primary and new secondary heat exchangers installed and all other major components have been checked. The house is heating like it did when the furnace was new and as you can see by the pictures, the guts of the furnace are brand new.

Remember the verbiage of the lawsuit in my earlier post-- ..."under no circumstances, however, will a Class member be charged for labor required above and beyond 4 hours of labor...." Technically I shouldn't have to pay a dime for this but I think it will be hard to find a tech willing to do it for nothing. (remember it has to be an authorized dealer before carrier will reimburse them) The tech charged me their hourly rate for that hour. I had done quite a bit of work prior to the tech arrival (removed all the stuff in front of the exchangers)-

I had a great tech. One of the few women techs in the industry I image. Heather from Allpoints heating in Mukilteo, Wa. If you are from this area call and ask for her. She washed the inside of my furnace and left the place spotless! I don't think a man could have done it any faster---

Installed primary and secondary The secondaries had rusted all the way through as you can see in this picture.

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the really weird part about this story is that we have hordes of them in Winnipeg and I have only had 1 failure. I think it has something to do with the nature of the gas supplied and apparently Propane units had more failures. something to do with the acidity of the condensate eating them faster in certain areas/cities I guess.

maybe it is all that clean air we got here. so cold it freezes your snott but the furnaces must like it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:39 PM   #19
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the really weird part about this story is that we have hordes of them in Winnipeg and I have only had 1 failure. I think it has something to do with the nature of the gas supplied and apparently Propane units had more failures. something to do with the acidity of the condensate eating them faster in certain areas/cities I guess.

maybe it is all that clean air we got here. so cold it freezes your snott but the furnaces must like it.
Or maybe they are being installed and commissioned properly in Winterpeg. Like I said in an earlier post, every one that I have replaced had an install issue: over-fired, under-fired, sloped the wrong way, etc.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:30 AM   #20
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this sounds all to familiar. except mine cooks the whole house during the day. then goes code 34 while we sleep. can you explain why this could be?
"carrier furnace flames out when blower starts"
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:30 AM   #21
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There is usually a list of error codes and what they mean on the front panel (backside) of the furnace.- The codes can vary from model to model but someone should be able to give the code meaning if you post the model number, etc. Then you can pinpoint the repair.
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The "inhanced warranty" covers only the replacment of the secondary HE, which should be no charge.The added cost is the labor charge to do the primary HE.The dealer is free to charge what ever they want for this portion of the job.The primary doesnt always need replacing.Usually on propane they are sooted and we recomend it.The dealer has to buy the parts and hold on to them until they recieve credit.The pictures look like a bryant 398 or carriers version.These were the easiest to do because the primary can stay in the furnace while the secondary just slides out.About an hour job.
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These furnaces have a $1050.00 credit.The 40 in tall furnaces [340,350,352,355, etc] have a $650.00 credit.
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Also caulking around the tubes under the collector box cover is usually only half the problem, the other is the rotted out sections of tubing visible through the blower compartment.Caulk wont fix it.

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