Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > HVAC

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-14-2009, 12:50 AM   #46
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 30
Rewards Points: 25
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Checked all wiring, seems ok.

Reading through manual noticed that description for 5 blinks is as follows: Flame sensed with gas valve off.

Description in the back panel for 5 blinks: Flame sensed when no flame should be present

klas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 04:57 AM   #47
An old Tradesmen
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 25,645
Rewards Points: 2,970
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


What was the voltage reading between neutral and ground.
What was the voltage reading between hot and ground.
What was the voltage reading between hot and neutral.

Did you check for a shot in the flame sensor wiring.
What was the ohm reading.
beenthere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 06:53 AM   #48
HVAC / Plumbing
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,801
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Looks like flame sensing issue or ps switch loosing vaccum. Did you jump out the ps or just replace it ?

Last edited by kenmac; 04-14-2009 at 07:27 AM.
kenmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 08:14 AM   #49
BIGRED
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 486
Rewards Points: 250
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Hi Guys, I've got one more for you. I've worked on draft induced boilers and waterheaters for fifteen years now and have run across several in both catagories where for what ever reason dirt, dust, grit has been sucked thru the blower and has coated the inside of the housing and all the little vanes on the blower wheel. The complaint is the same as yours. The fix I have run across most often is to simply clean out the blower squirting windex thru the draft into the blower or in some cases taking the blower apart and cleaning everything with a damp (not oily) cloth. There is so little press/vac needed to make the switch work I could never get a good reading on our manometer, but after cleaning the switch would activate the ignition circuit and we had liftoff again.
Grampa Bud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 11:48 AM   #50
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 30
Rewards Points: 25
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


got the right one

Last edited by klas; 04-21-2009 at 09:06 PM.
klas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 11:55 AM   #51
HVAC / Plumbing
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,801
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


I think you were advised not to buy used parts or parts off e-bay
kenmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 12:24 PM   #52
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NW of D.C.
Posts: 5,990
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


You may want to look for a root cause that is shortening the life of these components, so the new ones don't smoke.

Since you can have an almost 100% certain repair for $600, you should decide at what point you will stop throwing money and time and aggravation at an uncertain repair (the Slippery Slope). $300 might be a good stopping point.

Last edited by Yoyizit; 04-14-2009 at 12:41 PM.
Yoyizit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 01:01 PM   #53
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 30
Rewards Points: 25
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


i bought it off ebay before I was "advised", in any case I ordered a new one just so I can eliminate this issue as possibility.

So far I've spent already $50 on a used control board, $70 pressure switch, $100 diagnostics, $140 new control board. If the new control board doesn't resolve issue I will have to call for technician... another $100

the "100% sure $600 repair" was already done for a lot less. Technician said it was a control board an pressure switch. Obviously, he was wrong about pressure switch, as the new one didn't resolve the issue

Last edited by klas; 04-14-2009 at 01:52 PM.
klas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 02:24 PM   #54
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NW of D.C.
Posts: 5,990
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Quote:
Originally Posted by hvaclover View Post
Any field alterations would be considered a deviation (that means repairing a board or any other part of the safety or ignition system) from the original design and puts the liability squarely on the shoulder of the offending individual.

There was a guy around here who was repairing Bryant blower boards some years ago for local wholesaler. UTS shut 'em down hard. And rightfully so.
Who is UTS?
On what grounds did they prevent this aftermarket repair business? Was the repairer insured?
How did he get necessary [proprietary?] schematics, etc.?
Thanks.
Yoyizit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 02:49 PM   #55
Member
 
hvaclover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Suburbs of Detroit Mi
Posts: 3,704
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


I am officialy calling this guy a BSer troll...
__________________
Just slow, not stupid.
hvaclover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 02:52 PM   #56
Member
 
hvaclover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Suburbs of Detroit Mi
Posts: 3,704
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Fifty four posts and dodging questions says he buying used parts.
He's jerking your chains.
__________________
Just slow, not stupid.
hvaclover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 03:00 PM   #57
Member
 
hvaclover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Suburbs of Detroit Mi
Posts: 3,704
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyizit View Post
Who is UTS?
On what grounds did they prevent this aftermarket repair business? Was the repairer insured?
How did he get necessary [proprietary?] schematics, etc.?
Thanks.

United Technologies. They own Carrier and Bryant. The grounds were the alteration of a board that was patently against the law. If one of those boards were to cause a death the OEM would be held liable as would the repairer.

The repairer would not be able to get insurance as what he was doing was illegal.

All he did was bench test the board and the electronics that made it up. He replace the bad ones. But their quality was substandard and caused problems
__________________
Just slow, not stupid.
hvaclover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 03:01 PM   #58
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NW of D.C.
Posts: 5,990
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Quote:
Originally Posted by hvaclover View Post
Fifty four posts and dodging questions says he buying used parts.
He's jerking your chains.
You mean the OP is playing this game?

"Why Don't You/Yes But
The first such game theorized was Why don't you/Yes, but in which one player (White) would pose a problem as if seeking help, and the other player(s) (Black) would offer solutions (the "Why don't you?" suggestion).

White would point out a flaw in every Black player's solution (the "Yes, but" response), until they all gave up in frustration."

If so, he's not a "hard player." After all, he did spend money seeking a solution.
Yoyizit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 03:40 PM   #59
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 30
Rewards Points: 25
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Quote:
Originally Posted by hvaclover View Post
I am officialy calling this guy a BSer troll...
that was really uncalled for. I was looking for help. Thanks for your time!

but, just to make you happy, I just came back from the store with a brand new board because I couldn't wait any longer ordering parts online. I put it on and that did NOT resolve my issue. Thank you for suggesting to waste more money on something I didn't need. Used or not, that's was not an issue, obviously, but I see it how easy it is to blame a product that was used.

Last edited by klas; 04-14-2009 at 03:48 PM.
klas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 04:34 PM   #60
An old Tradesmen
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 25,645
Rewards Points: 2,970
Default

First time furnace repair. Any advice?


Quote:
Originally Posted by klas View Post
that was really uncalled for. I was looking for help. Thanks for your time!

but, just to make you happy, I just came back from the store with a brand new board because I couldn't wait any longer ordering parts online. I put it on and that did NOT resolve my issue. Thank you for suggesting to waste more money on something I didn't need. Used or not, that's was not an issue, obviously, but I see it how easy it is to blame a product that was used.
Quote:
What was the voltage reading between neutral and ground.
What was the voltage reading between hot and ground.
What was the voltage reading between hot and neutral.

Did you check for a shot in the flame sensor wiring.
What was the ohm reading.
Did you check any of the above.

beenthere is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help troubleshooting furnace problem robert_ HVAC 21 02-15-2012 08:04 AM
first time startup on Bryant furnace - furnace calls for heat and will not stop luvheat HVAC 22 02-14-2009 08:56 AM
Oil furnace does not fire up sbhavinm HVAC 5 01-17-2009 07:06 AM
Need New furnace advice. Unregistered HVAC 3 10-23-2006 09:13 PM
Furnace repair Bullwiiklesdad HVAC 3 10-19-2006 01:11 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.