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Old 12-21-2009, 02:38 PM   #1
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I currently have 2 Empire direct vent wall heaters that are between 5-10 years old and have been dormant for the past year.

I recently turned them on and noticed almost a burning smell coming from them. It is not a gas smell but like a burning metal smell????

They turn on, the burner fires, the fan works, the vents are clear and unobstructed outside.....it is just that there is a strange smell coming from them.

Any ideas what this is? They were definitely dusty and had some construction dust in them. I cleaned all of that out but still have the same result.

Any help is appreciated.

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Old 12-21-2009, 09:05 PM   #2
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Are the flames jumping when the fan is on. if so, might have a cracked heat exchanger.

may still have dust that you can't get to.

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Are the flames jumping when the fan is on. if so, might have a cracked heat exchanger.

may still have dust that you can't get to.
Not sure if u can even see flames on this unit!probably just burning debris off of unit.needs long run to hopefully fix odour.carbon monoxide detector on premises i pressume..
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It should have a sight glass to see the flames.
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It should have a sight glass to see the flames.
And it does.Maybe the size of a nickel.To verify establishing pilot.But have u actually BEENTHERE on this unit to have a legitamate response?just curious..i'm sure your right though!! just an observation!
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On his particular unit. Don't know his model number. But have probably worked on that model.

And you can see the flames moving if the heat exchanger is cracked.
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model# pguCOALFIRED1234..it's all about the post#'s.no matter how inane the responses are.g'nite
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Thank you for the responses.

Yes there is a sight glass on it. The pilot burns a nice blue and when the burner fires up it is blue for the most part with shots of yellow every now and again.

I am guessing that the shots of yellow are the issue?

THere is a carbon Monoxide detector directly above it and the home inspector let it run for some time with his detector and had no issues luckily.

I just know when we move it the wife is not going to be happy about the smell if it goes away and I want to make sure it is safe most importantly.

Thanks again.
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Look if the shots of yellow increase when the blower starts.

Also might want to turn the heat up high. And get the heater as hot as it can get. To burn off any residual dust, dirt on the heat exchanger. Works sometimes, sometimes it doesn't. Depending on what is really causing the odor.

If the heat exchanger is not leaking. then those yellow shots aren't causing your odor.

Often. Those yellow shots are caused by dust, dirt being pulled in with the combustion air.

Also, is the vent on the windward side of the house. this can cause troubles if it is.
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Thanks Beenthere.

This vent is not on the weather side of the house.

I will crank her up and let it run for a little while and see if that helps.


Should these operate with no smell whatsoever? I initially thought that is just what they did.

Thanks again for your help.
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They are pretty much like any other gas furnace. Shouldn't have an odor.

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