duct calculator

dizzy46

i am looking for help on how to use a duct calculator i have a slide duct calculator from carrier. i am put on a 500 sqf addition on my house need to run duct work for a 40000btu furnance 1.5 ton ac. need help on laying out the duct work can anyone help me thanks jim

tinmanrob

Don't put any faith in a slide duct calculator.
What size of a home is the 40K furnace heating now?
Location is a big factor.

Plumber101

What's wrong with a slide duct calculator?

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tinmanrob

Don't get me wrong.
Slide duct calculators are very useful.
However, adding another 500 square feet to an existing home requires more than just goofing with a duct calculator.

Plumber101

So ture

I just didn't get where you were going with that.

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dizzy46

the 40000 btus is just for the addition i have a 60000 btus for the old part of the house and it is only only4 years old so i didnt want to replace the 4 year old furance and the 40000 btu is in the basmemet under the addition. and the 60000 btu is far from the addition

Plumber101

We need to look at the a/c first. You have a 1 1/2tn so you will need 600 CFM

Set the calculator to 600cfm at .1 friction and this will start you out.

Can you post you e-mail address here since you don't have PM capabilities yet and I will email you a pamphlet on duct sizing how to's

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dizzy46

my email is dizzy4t6@gmail.com thanks for help

Plumber101

Should be in the IN box

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beenthere

A .1" friction rate for both the supply and return duct work, would require the blower to work against a .2" static pressure to over come the duct work(if the total equivalent length is only 100").
Plus the added pressure drop of the A/C coil. Which could be .2", so now the blower has to over come .4" of static.

Add on .06" for the supply and return grilles/registers, and your up to .46" of static pressure.
Add another .1" for pressure drop across the air filter, and your at .56" static the blower is working against.

This is only if the total equivalent length is 100".

Bet, by the time you add in all the equivalent lengths for the fittings, the TEL for the longest run is closer to 200'.

A ductulator doesn't determine the size duct, without you knowing the FR you should use for the TEL of the duct/distribution system.

.1" FR is seldom the proper rate.

dizzy46

here is my lay out(with math how i came up with cfms ect.) can i get some input on what is right or wrong. thanks

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beenthere

I only see 6 supplies. That total 525 CFM, a bit low for a 40,000 BTU 80%.
Unless it never goes to second stage.

14X8 is small for 1.5 tons(if you want it to be quiet), and for that furnace.

How you came up with those CFM's is beyond me. Since you don't indicate how you got your multiplier.

dizzy46

i read to determine cfm of air needed to supply the room. cfm means cubic feet per minute and defines the amount of air flowing.
one cfm of air is required to heat or cool 1.00-1.25 sq. ft. of floor area.
example
a 120 sq. ft. room will require between 96 and 120 cfm.

beenthere

You read a rule of thumb somewhere. Or an average.

There are 4,000 sq ft homes with 2 tons of A/C. Meaning they only have .2 CFM per sq ft.
There are others, that need 1 CFM per sq ft.

Kitchens usually take more CFM per sq ft then other rooms for cooling.
That rule of thumb didn't allow for that.

Plus, looks like your using a .1 FR. Another bad rule of thumb, lazy designers/installers use.

hvaclover

Word.

Can't tap into existing system using a ductulator.Gonna need a separate system for it.

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