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Old 12-21-2011, 10:14 AM   #16
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Well, based on recommendations from this thread, I am going to seriously examine the electric possibility. Since I've never considered these before (my recollection of electric fireplaces was a super-cheesy loud one in the basement of my parents' house 25 years ago), are there any particular brands that are renowned for being better than others? Do they make electric units that install in-wall, like a gas firebox would? I don't really want it to be a "piece of furniture" and would rather have it integrated into the construction plans. Picking the unit first lets me frame exactly as needed, rather than redo things later.

Thanks again for the advice in this thread.
You can use a wall mounted device, lowes sells them in different wattages, up to 4500 watts, they have 120 and 220v versions, it is in their baseboard electric heat area.

http://www.ventingdirect.com/cadet-n...eries/p1820326

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Thanks for the link. While that would do the simple job of providing heat, I was thinking something more along these lines:

http://www.dimplex.com/consumer_prod...ces/fireboxes?

I think I would prefer to wire for 220v - might as well feed it if it's going to do a job. I'll be running new electric anyway, so no more difficulty.
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Dimplex is a major co. that has been making baseboards heaters for ages so I would hope they have not dumbed down their quality. Usually they don't as it costs a fortune to dispel bad advertising, word of mouth reviews on the net etc. Honeywell if they make them would be another good choice. I would use 220 as the wire runs less hot and is a bit safer IMO. I don't like large loads on 110. Bigger is better when it comes to electricity IMO.
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Right now, it looks like the Dimplex BF39DXP and the Classic Flame 36EB220-GRT are my two favorites.
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personally I like the Dimplex and "probably" in the long run IMO only they may be easier to get parts for as that co. has been around for a long time. not sure about other brands. parts may be needed later on when a fan wears out or a bulb etc. these electric fireplaces are very trendy now and there are a lot of new upstart companies and how long the trend continues or they have parts or stay in biz would be a concern of mine.
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I choose Classic Flame for an option, as they were the largest competitor to Glen Dimplex on the search I did. Dimplex is definitely the market leader, and their price point shows it. Of the two I linked, the Dimplex was about $1000, plus another $300ish for thermostat and remote. The Classic Flame was $800, with the t-stat and remote included. I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for, just want to see exactly what difference spending $500 more for the Dimplex will get me.
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Dimplex is what used to be called Chromalox and they were around 4 ever and built VERY high quality heaters. If you amortize the extra $500 over 10-20 yrs it really costs U $25-50/yr which is peanuts. I am sure the other unit is good but we all have our reasons to buy products. If it was a non built in standalone that was easy to remove and becomes more of a throwaway type item then brand may not be so important. once you start framing and building it in then later you may not get another one to fit properly etc etc. google their name as they have a interesting site and history.

ps. how the heck did we survive w/o the net years ago to do research and compare products? makes me feel a lot better when doing research for my high end stereo spks and Ford Escape to not have to "trust" the salesperson when they "say" it is a good product.
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You are most correct. Looking at the gas bill again, I added in another decimal place. Thanks for catching that. So, a 20K btu gas fireplace would be about $0.10 an hour to run, where the electric is roughly $0.30 for a 10K btu system. Even though the gas is twice the btu, I'm considering them equal for gas inefficiency.
Our electric rate is $0.04/kwh, I'm in NY and I thought my rates were average, yours is very high! 3 to 1 ratio is about normal. Strange.

Also consider natural gas prices are now very low compared to historic prices

http://www.metalprices.com/pubcharts...=120&size=m&bg=

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