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Old 10-16-2012, 07:57 PM   #1
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I have recently had two HVAC techs install a completely new HVAC system and a new Ecobee Si. One of the guys wired the outside HP and one wired the indoor AH. I know that they had several of the wires wrong because I have checked them ex:

the B terminal at the HP was attached to a blue wire and that blue wire was attached to another blue wire which ran to the AH but the blue wire was not connected to anything inside
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the D terminal at the HP (purple) attached to a black wire that ran to the AH and the black wire was attached to an orange wire that ran to the O/B terminal.

I mentioned to one guy that he may need the instruction manual to the Ecobee since he has never installed one before. His reply was I can wire it with any wire, so its not a big deal I can do this in my sleep. It is a big deal if the other guy is using different wires!!! I can get the cool air to come on under the heat pump setting, but the heat only works if I have the furnace enabled and electric specified. I have been told by Ecobee that the AH and HP may not be compatible. There is no B or O terminal on the AH. The wiring diagrams in the manuals say that there is a B terminal on the AH, but the diagram that is on the AH itself does not have a B terminal. Is this correct? How should it be wired? I have no aux heat. currently it is wired as follows

Thermostat -> AH -> HP
W (O/B) - x - B
Y - x - Y
R - R - R
C - C - C
W2 - W1&W2 - D
G - G

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rhsl-hm4221ja - Air handler
13pjl42a01 - 1 stage heat pump

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Old 10-16-2012, 08:35 PM   #2
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You do not have furnace.

AH and HP are Rheem..... so BS what the "guy" from Ecobe said.

They can use any wires color to connect. Since this industry is a mess in reference to code. It's just not a good practice.
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you have no aux heat when? In Emergency heat mode? When the thermostat is set x degrees higher than the room temp?

It looks to be wired properly. I don't see a B terminal in your air handler wiring. Nor should the be one with a psc motor type air handler. http://www.natureaircorp.com/downloa...ng_diagram.pdf

Is the thermostat setup for a heat pump with electric aux heat?
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I have no heat period when the thermostat is configured for 1 stage heat pump. To get heat I have to configure the thermostat to electric furnace. There is no aux heater installed. It is aftermarket and they did not install one. There also is no emergency heat.

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I know you can use any wire "color" to connect but when one guy wires the b terminal and at the other end the other guy wires that to the d terminal there is a problem.
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Here's the thing. Why would both the AH & HP manual have a diagram showing that there should be a B terminal to go from thermostat to ah to hp then the ah model they install not have one? Also all the research I've done online has the ah with a B terminal for proper function of a hp system.
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The B terminal on your system is reversing valve function. The ahu does not need to see the RV signal on a psc motor ahu like you have. The ecobee must be setup for RV signal with heating. Pretty much All other manufacturers use RV signal with cooling.
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I have made sure the settings regarding the reverse valve are correct.
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