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LFYN 02-05-2013 06:35 PM

Commercial freezer Grounding/Neutral help
 
Hi, I have a 115v, 15.8 amp Commercial Freezer with a 5-20p plug. The Freezer is plugged into a dedicated 20 amp receptacle with 12 AWG wired directly to a 20 amp breaker in the main service breaker. In the Main Breaker Box the Neutral and Grounding bars are all connected as one.(not seperated). I was informed that for a 240v freezer that the Ground and Neutral must be seperated. My question is, is this so for a 115v Freezer?
As of now the 115V freezer is wired to the main and the Neutral and Ground are tied together. Is this wrong? This is a new install and the freezer runs fine, but will eventually trip the breaker. I am new here and would appreciate any help/advice.

TarheelTerp 02-05-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LFYN (Post 1110393)
In the Main Breaker Box the Neutral and Grounding bars are all connected as one. I was informed...

Find OTHER sources for information.
Whatever that person may know about... it ain't this.

TarheelTerp 02-05-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LFYN (Post 1110415)
I have a Commercial Freezer, it is 115V, 15.8 Amps. ...
The Freezer is a new install and runs fine but... it eventually trips the breaker.

Can you define what "eventually" means?
Have you noticed *anything* else happening when the breaker trips?

On a dedicated circuit (with nothing else on it) it should be fine.
Check the basic work done. Loose connections in particular.

LFYN 02-05-2013 07:29 PM

Thank you for replying. Eventually meaning that the freezer will run Approximately 4-6 hrs down to a preset temp, -4 or -6 not sure. Then the next time I notice it its off and the breaker tripped. I have not witness it happen just after the fact. Had a refrigeration tech check out the freezer, everything checked out. Then when the breaker popped again, made me start thinking about the wiring/ breaker, etc.

hvactech126 02-05-2013 07:36 PM

Have you been onsite when the breaker has tripped? If so, what was the unit doing at the time it tripped? Was the compressor starting?

LFYN 02-05-2013 07:48 PM

Hi, and thanks for responding. No I haven't witnessed it when it trips. I know it will run for approximately 5-6 hours down to a preset temp -4 or -6 not sure. Then the next thing I know it's off and the breaker tripped. Maybe went into defrost mode or coming out. Had a refrigeration tech check out just the freezer yesterday, but not the wiring. The freezer checked out everything was in spec. I think it was drawing 11.4 amps while it was cooling and 8.4 amps when in Def. mode. So after he left it popped again a few hours later, so now thinking something with the wiring/ground/breaker, etc.

64pvolvo1800 02-05-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LFYN (Post 1110446)
Hi, and thanks for responding. No I haven't witnessed it when it trips. I know it will run for approximately 5-6 hours down to a preset temp -4 or -6 not sure. Then the next thing I know it's off and the breaker tripped. Maybe went into defrost mode or coming out. Had a refrigeration tech check out just the freezer yesterday, but not the wiring. The freezer checked out everything was in spec. I think it was drawing 11.4 amps while it was cooling and 8.4 amps when in Def. mode. So after he left it popped again a few hours later, so now thinking something with the wiring/ground/breaker, etc.

Is the breaker warm or hot? The connection to the main bussbar could cause heat and trip as a result. Tried a different breaker?

beenthere 02-05-2013 08:06 PM

Merged your threads, please don't make duplicate threads, thank you.

beenthere 02-05-2013 08:07 PM

How many defrost cycles is thje defrost clock set to.

LFYN 02-05-2013 08:08 PM

Wasn't sure where it belonged, and how do you merge them? Thanks for the help

LFYN 02-05-2013 08:11 PM

It's a preset digital controller. I'm not exactly sure how many cycles and the intervals, but I will try and find out. Thanks

beenthere 02-05-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LFYN (Post 1110467)
Wasn't sure where it belonged, and how do you merge them? Thanks for the help

I have more things on my screen then you do, or atleast more of the tabs work for me. I'm one of the moderators of the site. Just forgot to leave that note. :)

Your post was fitting for either forum. Just now allowed to be in both. No biggie.

beenthere 02-05-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LFYN (Post 1110469)
It's a preset digital controller. I'm not exactly sure how many cycles and the intervals, but I will try and find out. Thanks

With it tripping the breaker after 6 hours, sound like a 6 hour defrost interval, or 4 defrost a day, which is appropriate for a below 0F freezer. It could be your defrost time is too long, and making the evap too hot, so the compressor is over worked coming out of defrost. And tripping the breaker.

LFYN 02-05-2013 08:17 PM

Yes The first breaker was a quad. I then added a single 20A High Magnetic breaker for appliances and this still tripped. Didn't check to see if breaker was warm. It always pops when I'm not right there, so not sure how long it was off before I notice. Guess I will get a chair and babysit it next time to see exactly what it was doing when it trips, then I can check the breaker to see if its warm.

LFYN 02-06-2013 09:27 AM

http://www.commercial-freezers-coole...ectronics.html

The part of this article I am questioning starts at half way down the page.

This is my source for originally posting my question. Any comments or suggestions? Seems that they are speaking about 230v. So once again does this also apply to a 115v?. If anyone knows please respond. Thank you

P.S. I did email the website with this question still waiting for reply.


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