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Old 07-30-2011, 10:03 AM   #31
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Old 07-30-2011, 10:31 AM   #32
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try 640 X 460 on the pix thru PBucket...i want to see the outside air duct connecting to the return in the closet and the outside end of the fresh air duct grill...any damper in the room for the incoming freash air before the end of the day that sucker is going to get disconnected and cover the opening on the rturn duct for a true 100% return....
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is there a ducted going to the bottom of that unit were you change the filter..those vents cut in the sheet rock tell me the closet is the return so lets here were that filter is in the unit on the bottom panel or slides into a duct
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Yes, that is the return. I'm not sure I understand the rest of what you said
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Actually I have started to like curry and spicier different foods ever since my sister married into an East Indian family. They eat their samosas like us Ukrainians eat perogies. Big on garlic us Slavs are.
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My Mothers cousin (Slovak from the former Czechoslovakia) has his standard get up and go breakfast. Cup of black coffee, slice of toast with a clove of garlic sliced into the butter and a cigarette. Probably unfiltered when he is back "home". Oy.
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Yes, that is the return. I'm not sure I understand the rest of what you said
I have seen LOTS of those units in condos where I am. The fresh air pipe you have to outdoors is an add on and not necessary for it to work properly or safely. You may want to plug it somehow. Flip side to that is if your dogs or cat gives off any smells the lack of fresh air may be noticeable. Pros and Cons to everything.
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fire dept.might not appreciare fresh air being supplied into a smoke/fire situation per condo wonder if she has a fire door which your not suppose to open during a fire someplace else...bet it the (air handlers) not tied into the smoke alarms to shut down....on smoke trip..i say block it totally off her cooling bill will show the difference and the heat with the winters up there

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I still want to see a closeup pic of the supposed "fresh air vent" from the outside and exactly where it attaches to the return duct. You CANNOT alter ANYTHING on the outdoor grill of that unit. The 3" looking pipe behind the grill is to exhaust the furnace and DO NOT block it.
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I only say there is a "fresh air vent" because when I called the condo association to ask if the venting systems were all separate they said yes, and when I asked how smoke was getting into my unit, they said the only way was for the unit to be sucking air in from outside. I'm not sure what part to take the photo of.
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? when the unit is running do you hear air returning thru those grillas on each side of the brown doors...and if you crack them open do you feel air sucking in past you...where is the filter on the unit inthe unit.....i think she is drawing in smoke smell thru the flue for the heating side if that unit is looking for air those returns look to small....next smoke out tell them to smoke in theusual place open up the doors to the unit 100% just even fan don't need cooling running FAN/ON stat...see if you smell the smoke..can you take a pix of the unit with the panels off...the unit top Burner Section and bottom Fan Section..need to know where the filter mounts ..that closet might be the entire return
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The closet is the entire return, I replaced the filter today. The front panel comes off, and I put the new filter on, it hooks right in front of the inside grill (which I also cleaned by gently vacuuming), and then the panel goes back on.
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I think Biggles and I are getting close to the solution. Those units slide into a metal sleeve in the wall cavity of your building. That sleeve is supposed to be well sealed to the wall of the building with duct mastic sealer or silicone. Your unit is 18 yrs old (made in 1993) and probably the seal is broken. If you do not have enough return grill space in the wall the fan is looking /starving for air and sucking outside air and smoke past the wall sleeve into your return air of the HVAC unit and into your condo. I don't believe you even have a fresh air pipe. The condo board said all your units are seperate and they are with no interconnecting ductwork to other condos or the common hallway if you have one.

You need to get it resealed outside and possibly inside with whatever method they originally used. Silicone won't stick to mastic and vice versa.
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LOL What does that mean I should do? Sorry, I'm such a n00b, I have no idea what any of that means. -.-

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