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Old 07-13-2012, 04:11 PM   #16
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I'd be in the 550 to 650 range for that repair and recharge.

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I fully agree with coldiron....we need to stop making guessing games of others overhead cost to run their business....get 2-3 estimates and deal with it...ben
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I really dont understand the concept of getting two or three estimates. Anyone he calls out is going to charge him a service call. For a relatively easy repair like that what he needs is a recommendation for a honest tech/company. I would charge in the $300 range for that repair. As a one man show my overhead is relatively low. Personally I wouldn't bother changing the drier and from what I've seen most techs wouldn't change it if they are just resoldering a line. But if someone wanted me to change the drier it would add about $75 to my price.
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I really dont understand the concept of getting two or three estimates. Anyone he calls out is going to charge him a service call. For a relatively easy repair like that what he needs is a recommendation for a honest tech/company. I would charge in the $300 range for that repair. As a one man show my overhead is relatively low. Personally I wouldn't bother changing the drier and from what I've seen most techs wouldn't change it if they are just resoldering a line. But if someone wanted me to change the drier it would add about $75 to my price.
"Your name speaks for itself, change the dryer" Charge the customer accordingly.
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"Your name speaks for itself, change the dryer" Charge the customer accordingly.
My name is from the show "the aprrentice". My years in the HVAC business is over thirty, twenty as an owner. I've seen plenty, and even more BS. The truth in the HVAC world is on a very low sliding scale from what I've seen in my many years in it. And I stand firmly behind that I believe less than ten percent of companies would actually change the drier in this particular situation. But many I'm sure would charge for it.

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I completely understand overhead in business, and a reasonable markup on parts and consumables...But an 800% markup for the r410a is scalping no matter how you look at it. Anyone can get a 25# tank for around $230 delivered....that's about $9 a pound. Get three more estimates and forget this guy. Let him put his kids through college on his dime, not yours.
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My name is from the show "the aprrentice". My years in the HVAC business is over thirty, twenty as an owner. I've seen plenty, and even more BS. The truth in the HVAC world is on a very low sliding scale from what I've seen in my many years in it. And I stand firmly behind that I believe less than ten percent of companies would actually change the drier in this particular situation. But many I'm sure would charge for it.
Then this thread you made Sept of last year makes no sense. Since it makes you sound like a regular DIYer, not a tradesmen.
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I really dont understand the concept of getting two or three estimates. Anyone he calls out is going to charge him a service call. For a relatively easy repair like that what he needs is a recommendation for a honest tech/company. I would charge in the $300 range for that repair. As a one man show my overhead is relatively low. Personally I wouldn't bother changing the drier and from what I've seen most techs wouldn't change it if they are just resoldering a line. But if someone wanted me to change the drier it would add about $75 to my price.
Iam still one who gives free...yes I said free estimates.....when your honest 9 out of 10 times I get the job......you don't understand the concept....after 30 yrs you should know the concept....no need to reply...ben
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Then this thread you made Sept of last year makes no sense. Since it makes you sound like a regular DIYer, not a tradesmen.
So a guy with 30 years in HVAC called over his neighbor who used to do HVAC to check a non-working motor? Doesn't make sense at all. Especially if he's owned an HVAC business for 20 years.
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I completely understand overhead in business, and a reasonable markup on parts and consumables...But an 800% markup for the r410a is scalping no matter how you look at it. Anyone can get a 25# tank for around $230 delivered....that's about $9 a pound. Get three more estimates and forget this guy. Let him put his kids through college on his dime, not yours.
Since you said you completely understanding overhead in business, Can you tell us the overheads associated in running an HVAC business? So for example, if your A/C is not working and you call me. I found out that you have a bad 5mfd capacitor that cost me around $5 max and take me around 5 minutes to install. How much do you want me to charge you?

$631 for all this work doesn't seem high, especially for what he has to do.

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I can tell you that if you have to inflate any part or consumable 800% to cover your overhead that you are a poor businessman. It's scalping, or using an old fashioned term "highway robbery". If you can't be competitive with your hourly rate and service call rate and a reasonable mark up on parts and consumables then you probably shouldn't be in business. But if you think that an 800% markup is a proper charge...you are a crook.
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I'm not in the business and at most am a DIY kind of guy. I am also "new" to this forum and an just exploring around. I do not do AC work but based on being a home owner and having at least 30 repiar jobs I have paid for, I can tell you that if anyone opened my lines up, or the system lost positive persure I would demand that they put a new dryer in.

As for if the price is right in your area or what the guys overhead is or isn't... Well his overhead is only known by him. Could be he pays a fortune in insurance due to claims, or other issues.. Or he is just on the high side. Well if It was my A/C I would call three other places and tell them what this guy claims is needed and ask them what their fee would be based on what you say needs to be done. Do not tell them what this guy is charging.

Also Google the names of the guys you are thinking of using followed by the word "review". And see what you find. Not a guarantee of getting a good guy, put it does help.

Just because someone in another county would charge say $200.00 does not automatically mean that $600.00 is out of line where you live. Also depends on how bad they need the work.

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800% mark up on a 5 dollar part only makes it a 40 dollar part.
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ONLY?? Using that logic,you would be OK paying $22.50 for a gallon of gas?
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