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Old 07-06-2012, 07:05 PM   #1
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I have a 38ycc carrier split system. Its been very hot in the last few days and last night the compressor stopped working. I called a HVAC mechanic and he said the compressor has been grounded and I would need a new compressor, since Carrier doesn't make parts for the R22 systems anymore.
The unit is only 6 years old, and just out of warranty. Do I have a cheaper option to repair the unit ? If I replace the compressor, do I need to replace the indoor component as well ? If not, can I buy a different brand of compressor to go along with the Carrier indoor component ?
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I have a 38ycc carrier split system. Its been very hot in the last few days and last night the compressor stopped working. I called a HVAC mechanic and he said the compressor has been grounded and I would need a new compressor, since Carrier doesn't make parts for the R22 systems anymore.
The unit is only 6 years old, and just out of warranty. Do I have a cheaper option to repair the unit ? If I replace the compressor, do I need to replace the indoor component as well ? If not, can I buy a different brand of compressor to go along with the Carrier indoor component ?
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you can still get r22 compressors ...does not have to be a carrier as long as it is matched with right size for system....indoor coil stays the same.....ben...

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That should be a Copeland Scroll compressor, made all day everyday and factory installed in the majority of condensers of all brands to date so not made by Carrier but Copeland and easily accessible. If it's a Copeland in there, I should say.

Are we certain it's grounded and not just out on thermal overload? That's a safety switch internal to the compressor which protects it from burning up such as in the event there's a refrigerant leak and the compressor loses oil.

is your electrical breaker tripping?
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ben, is it not a Copeland in there already?

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ben, is it not a Copeland in there already?

http://www.docs.hvacpartners.com/idc.../38ycc-8pd.pdf
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hey doc one of by tech books says it could have a bristol reciprocating compressor.....ben.. heat pump??????
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I'd shoOt that Bristol brand new out the box and install a Copeland.

OP, you can find a compressor. Might want to try another hvac company, though.

Btw, if your electrical circuit breaker for the condenser is not tripping I'd be hard pressed to believe the compressor is grounded.

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I'd shoOt that Bristol brand new out the box and install a Copeland.

OP, you can find a compressor. Might want to try another hvac company, though.

Btw, if your electrical circuit breaker for the condenser is not tripping I'd be hard pressed to believe the compressor is grounded.

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again iam with you bristol can only be fixed with a pistol shoot the sucker
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I'd shoOt that Bristol brand new out the box and install a Copeland.

OP, you can find a compressor. Might want to try another hvac company, though.

Btw, if your electrical circuit breaker for the condenser is not tripping I'd be hard pressed to believe the compressor is grounded.

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The circuit breaker did not trip. I am getting a second opinion from a different HVAC company on Monday... thanks!
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Did you check to see if there was an electrical service disconnect by the condenser that was in? If the first tech pulled it out the breaker wouldn't trip.
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I called a HVAC mechanic and he said the compressor has been grounded and I would need a new compressor, since Carrier doesn't make parts for the R22 systems anymore.
I would run far and fast from that company. They want to sell you a new system, not fix the one you have. This is highly typical of the new crop of HVAC companies, where the answer to every problem is "replace the system". I'd put a compressor in a 6 year old system, assuming everything else is okay.
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Carrier has replacement compressors for that condenser. It may cot you almost as much to have the compressor replaced as getting a new outdoor unit though.
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burp some freon onto your fingers on the insulated line out at the condenser...put it up to your nose...does it smelled burnt? eye ball the contactor within the condensers. if the compressor went nuke the contactor should of taken the over amp draw a on a burn out...blackened/arc'd up.if you have a continuity tester shut the power out on the condenser remove the compressor wires touch each compressor terminal to the copper line no continuity on the meter that is (continuity NG) between terminals (no continuity NG) continuity match your compressor numbers(not condenser) numbers here http://www.bestbuyheatingandaircondi...tegory_Code=C2

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I did get a second opinion from another HVAC company tech who had the same opinion... the compressor is grounded .. I was also wrong earlier, the circuit breaker trips every time the unit is powered on.
The 2nd tech diagnosed it by rewiring the unit and taking out the compressor from the circuit after which the fan came on when powered up, but with the compressor connected , no luck... he also tried a new capacitor , but no luck either.

I am a complete newbie and I learnt a lot from this experience and I really appreciate everyone's inputs! I'm calling companies on Monday for quotes on a replacement compressor. The tech did say Carrier may have the compressor under warranty and to call back on Monday and they'll check for me with the serial number, so I'll do that first!
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I did get a second opinion from another HVAC company tech who had the same opinion... the compressor is grounded .. I was also wrong earlier, the circuit breaker trips every time the unit is powered on.
The 2nd tech diagnosed it by rewiring the unit and taking out the compressor from the circuit after which the fan came on when powered up, but with the compressor connected , no luck... he also tried a new capacitor , but no luck either.

I am a complete newbie and I learnt a lot from this experience and I really appreciate everyone's inputs! I'm calling companies on Monday for quotes on a replacement compressor. The tech did say Carrier may have the compressor under warranty and to call back on Monday and they'll check for me with the serial number, so I'll do that first!
that sounds right after 2nd tech confirmed ground....no distrust just proper proceedure....ben

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