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Old 09-03-2009, 02:24 AM   #16
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That furnace probably has hairline cracks in the heat exchanger and is not efficient. There is a 15% rebate on your income tax if you buy a new high efficient furnace B4 the end of the year (fed govt home improvement grant). There is also a $245 rebate from MB Hydro if you get one before November with an ECM motor. Those grants expire soon so you should seriously consider a Lennox G61V or G71MPP.

Winterpeg: 10 months of skating and 2 month of bad sledding.
Sounds like you've experienced it. Actually we have 2 seasons....
winter and construction!
Thanks everyone so much for the help. I wish I had posted earlier to
get the recently thrown out one. I have heard from so many people
that they wish they had their old furnaces back as the new "efficient"
ones are not all that. So now I'm really not sure what to do. But the
hairline cracks that you all are mentioning, can they be dangerous?
Tks again

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Old 09-03-2009, 02:36 AM   #17
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I have never had a problem with the furnace and I have the fan
(motor on high) going 24-7 for years. Bills are reasonable also.
The only problem is the freakin dust! I've had the ducts cleaned,
I have hardwood floors throughout the house, I've tried to use the
5" cardboard filters (inserting them into the electronic air filter space) and they are totally full like in 1mth. I'm grasping here and
that's why I am thinking that the old hammock frame is all I wish I
had back. Had the furnace inspec. last year and the svce guy said
it was operating great for it's age. So now I'm confused as to what is the best answer to this frustrating sit. Maybe a beer or 5 would help
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:38 AM   #18
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Never mind. My bad. Didn't see she was a h0mey.


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Old 09-03-2009, 05:41 AM   #19
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remove the cover of the electronic air cleaner pull the element out,and slip a filter in there 1" THICK take a general measurement 20 X 20...20 X 25..even if you have to fold the ends.if you want to make that basket that went under the motor get some chicken wire make a half moon shape of it and place the filter on the other side of it from the motor side.cut the filter out of the cardboard holder or get a couple that are over sized and cut them down.bend the edges of the wire so it holds the filter on the upper part when the unit is off.slipping a coule of 1" in that cleaner housing is the easiest for now....if you have a single return grill in the occuppied space putting a filter in there will cover the filtration just as good as all that things suggested down at the furnace.

That's it the easiest, fastest, cheapest, and the best under the conditions.
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QUOTE Maybe a beer or 5 would help QUOTE

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Old 09-03-2009, 03:08 PM   #21
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Travelgirl, are you aware that furnace fan costs $1 per day/$365/yr to run for electricity? Uses anywhere from 360- 500 watts of juice and at our rate thats what it costs. A newer furnace with an ECM motor uses 80 Watts and costs $90/yr for electricity, a saving of $275 which buys a lot of beer. I would recommend a Lennox G61V or G71MPP and a 5" MERV 10 filter in a Healthy Climate filter box. You should also get your ducts properly cleaned by Advance Robotic Duct Cleaners. The rest of them are not always "so" good. Those 2 rebates expire soon and lots of people are taking advantage of them. You will also save $350 or more in gas.
http://www.hydro.mb.ca/your_home/hom...?WT.mc_id=2815

The cracks in the heat exchanger can be 8 or more inches above the burners and a tech cannot visually see in there. A video camera and water spray shows them up but very few people can do that test. If they open up then you have a problem. You should have 2 CO detectors in your house. One in the hallway going up from the basement stairs and 1 in your bedroom.

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Don't fret about the cracks Yuri. We always cut an opening at the curve level if we suspected cracks. If there were none we would cover the opening with a piece of 26 ga.
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Thats ILLEGAL here. Cannot cut into the back of a furnace.
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We would ask permission first. The furnace would either have cracks or not.
Customer needed to know the state of things.
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Authorities don't allow that here. Damages/voids the integrity of the insulation/fire rating, UL approval etc.
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I just wish all Canadian techs and others follow the safety rules. We have lawyers here just lookin to sue also.
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Authorities don't allow that here. Damages/voids the integrity of the insulation/fire rating, UL approval etc.

That's why we have clearance minimums for all sides of the unit.
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And how many times have you seen people stack their Xmas decorations, golf clubs behind the furnace, against it? Had one today where there were boxes directly in front of the water heater burner (2" away). People don't recognize fire hazards.
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